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William Thomas Fulton
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Drone Ratting

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I am following the Epic Quest line:
https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/The_Bloo ... Closing_In

I noticed that I was approaching Mission 50 (Our Man Dagan) and it was tough to solo. The notes indicate I should be doing 100 - 110 dps.

So, I am taking a training break.

To deal with Dagan, I have been training drone skills. I started by focusing more on raw damage dealt.
Drones V
Light Drone Operation V
Drone Interfacing V
Galiente Drone Specialization IV (working on V)
Drone Avionics III
Drone Durability III
Drone Navigation III
Drone Sharpshooting III
Medium Drone Operation II

I want up up the range and drone speed slightly and I think I'll be ready.
I can do 117.1 dps in my Tristan now (V Hob IIs, t2 damage amplifier, ...), this should be near 120 dps with GDS V.

Should this work to Solo Dagan?
I can imagine these skills will come in handy woth solo PvE.
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Training skills all the way to 5 is seldom worth it as a new player - there is always something else that you should probably be prioritizing while getting to 4 is often still very good. As a rule of thumb, don't do it unless you are sure it is worthwhile. The only exceptions might be CPU, powergrid, and weapons upgrades.

The issue with Dagan and achieving 110 dps can probably be solved by changing your ship and/or fitting. For example, are you using 2 drone damage amplifiers, or 1? Also, upshipping into a destroyer or cruiser will help a lot. And these are much quicker to skill into than GDS 5.

Link your fit and we can maybe give more specific recommendations.
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Re: Drone Ratting

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I've probably made a poor choice to stick with GDS 5. I am only 6 days from completing it, and will go ahead and finish.
I did not know how to link, but here are the fittings from "copy to clipboard"
Btw: Started tracking DPS when I was at 74. I am doing quite a bit more now.

[Tristan, William Thomas Fulton's Tristan]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
1MN Afterburner I
Tracking Computer I
75mm Carbide Railgun I
75mm Carbide Railgun I
Small Drone Control Range Augmentor I
Small Thermal Armor Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x8
Tracking Speed Script x1
Core Scanner Probe I x16
Antimatter Charge S x5048
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Re: Drone Ratting

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The plan, post CDS V is totally open to change. I have a bunch of magic 14, and short skill plan skills to improve.
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I think your fit is cut off because I only count 2 lows. Try the algos for a lot more damage. I forget what you need to be able to tank from Dagan but I would bet an Algos can do it, and I don't think he points so you could warp off if your armor gets low. Or go to a vexor for an even stronger/safer matchup. There are a ton of pve vexor fits out there.

That mission is not designed for a frigate. Though you can certainly try! I would also suggest abandoning GDS 5 - think of what else you can train that will be useful in those 6 days (gallente frigate, cruiser, or better tank/gun skills). I know the feeling that you've started it and want to finish it, but it's just such a small increase and only useful when flying gallente drones.
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Re: Drone Ratting

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Chruno wrote: I know the feeling that you've started it and want to finish it, but it's just such a small increase and only useful when flying gallente drones.
This, you need to be more tactical about what skills you improve.

taking Gallente drone Specialisation from IV to V takes a long time - 2 weeks +, and this provides a grand total of 2% extra damage only for your gallente drones.

however, going from Medium drone operation II to Medium drone operation IV would take a fraction of that time and result in 10% extra damage on your medium drones of any race - so for your hammerheads you'd get WAY more benefit out of two levels in this skill and for 1/8th of the time invested (probably even less i'm just spitballing figures).

I've got some hefty drone skills, but even I've not gone for specialisations beyond 3 (IV for caldari) yet as the damage improvement is miniscule compared with other options - there must be plenty of similar options available for you where you need to go for efficient skillups to get your abilities increasing as fast as possible, leave the level 5's in these sorts of skills for when you have nothing else to improve your dps.

for Dagan as noted it's not geared for Frigates - you're fighting a bigger ship and this warrants a bigger ship of your own, either a high DPS fit destroyer with extra guns to bare, or a cruiser with larger calibre guns that'll make it much easier to bring the pain to Dagan.

Dagan needs about a minimum of 110 DPS, but if you're only barely making this then you're in for a very drawn out fight as you're just barely breaking his tank, the more DPS you can wrack up the easier it will go - at 140dps you will kill Dagan in half the time that 110 DPS takes - as more damage will be going to his armour and hull and you'll spend less time hitting his shields.

Suggest swapping out rail guns for blasters - Dagan's flying a bigger ship, with bigger guns - this gives you a hole to exploit, if you get in close he will struggle to hit you in a frigate or even a destroyer, which also is the ideal situation to be using your High DPS, low range blasters for more damage - this is the rock-paper-scissors of EVE at work, and the increased DPS will help you break through that sturdy tank of his.
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Re: Drone Ratting

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Another vote for dropping the Gallente drones specialization 5. Consider getting those rail guns up to tech II, if only for the 5% damage boost per level of the skill. Also, have a look at the tank skills. You have T1 armor hardeners and getting those improved will pay off on many ships.

If you have to do this in a frigate, the above suggestion to try getting in close with blasters and your drone sounds very good. You will boost your dps and tracking tank him at the same time. But a destroyer or cruiser are likely easier and safer.
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