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Zoltan Irvam

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Post 2018.08.12 19:05

Occator

Hi,

since the Wiki fits for the Occator are not capable to use the Cloak & MWD trick, here's my take on one...

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[Occator, Coak & MWD]
Damage Control II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Warp Core Stabilizer I

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Transverse Bulkhead II
Medium Transverse Bulkhead II


This should warp off after one MWD cycle while cloaked with good skills. If it doesn't - feel free to swap a warp core stab for an extra i-stab.
It only has 50k EHP - not much by DST measures but remember it's main tank is the difficulty to be caught... and 50k will be more than enough for occasional smartbombers in low or a few ganknados taking potshots at Jita 4-4 undock...

As can be seen, there's a free high slot, which might take a Core Probe Launcher if you use it in a WH and a free mid slot to fill as you like... an ECM burst to GTFO in nullsec emergencies or an MJD for getting through a bubbled outgate come to mind...

PS: It should be mentioned that an alt of mine has been flying this fit (with an extra i-stab due to so-so skills as mentioned above) on a regular basis across hisec and some low with high value cargo for about half a year without incident.

Zoltan
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Post 2018.08.28 14:58

Re: Occator

Fits we currently have up:

  1. Active Hardeners
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    [Occator, active hardeners]

    EM Ward Field II
    Medium Shield Extender II
    50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive

    Armor Explosive Hardener II
    Armor Explosive Hardener II
    800mm Steel Plates II
    Armor Thermal Hardener II
    Damage Control II
    Armor EM Hardener II

    Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
    Medium Ancillary Current Router II

  2. Buffer AB MJD
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    [Occator, Occator - Buffer + AB/MJD (HS)]
    Prototype Cloaking Device I
    Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

    10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
    Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Medium Micro Jump Drive

    Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener
    Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
    Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener
    Corpus X-Type Armor Thermal Hardener
    Damage Control II
    800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

    Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
    Medium Ancillary Current Router II



    Navy Cap Booster 400 x1
    Core Scanner Probe I x1

  3. Highsec Transport
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    [Occator, Hisec Ship Transport]
    Improved Cloaking Device II

    10MN Afterburner II
    Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
    Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster

    800mm Steel Plates II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Damage Control II
    Armor Explosive Hardener II
    Armor Thermal Hardener II
    Armor EM Hardener II

    Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

  4. Active Tank
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    [Occator, Active Tank]
    Improved Cloaking Device II

    10MN Afterburner II
    Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
    Cap Recharger II

    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Damage Control II
    Armor Explosive Hardener II
    Armor Thermal Hardener II
    Armor EM Hardener II

    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Let the discussions commence! Fittings Staff are currently typing up other open threads but we'll try to catch up to the discussion when possible.
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Cassiel Seraphim

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Post 2018.08.28 17:47

Re: Occator

Remember there are tricks to reduce the align time for the MWD-cloak trick to work even on less agile ships, like using a relatively cheap faction cloak like the Caldari Navy Cloaking Device, which has a lower speed penalty allowing you to reach higher speeds during your cycle.

You can also use a more expensive faction MWD like the Shadow Serpentis 50MN Microwarpdrive, which has a higher bonus and also allows you to reach higher speeds during your cycle.
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Post 2018.12.03 20:36

Re: Occator

Hello,

have just acquired 2 Occators with Zoltan's fit for my hauler alt.

Greetings,
Kiuna
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Hirmuolio Pine

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Post 2018.12.04 14:03

Re: Occator

Burst jammers were mentioned. But remember that after the ECM changes they are now useless for self defence.

Deadspace hardeners (and other shiny modules) are most likely worth using in high sec if you are hauling expensive cargo. If they save your 1 bil cargo even once you will be happy that you have them.
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Post 2018.12.04 15:54

Re: Occator

Hirmuolio Pine wrote:Burst jammers were mentioned. But remember that after the ECM changes they are now useless for self defence.


AFAIK the burst jammer is not affected by the changes. EDIT: Or lock breakers, for what its worth...
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Post 2018.12.04 17:44

Re: Occator

After a quick test you are right.

The burst jammer still breaks target locks against yourself (unlike targeted ECM).
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Tal Tracyn

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Post 2018.12.04 18:22

Re: Occator

I think zoltan 50k ehp build is going to gain a lot of intrest from CODE when he undocks from jita.
You don't have much more EHP than a T1 hauler.

I have this in my pyfa

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[Occator, Occator fit]

Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Armor Thermal Hardener
Imperial Navy Armor EM Hardener
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Imperial Navy Armor Explosive Hardener
800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium Shield Extender II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II

Improved Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II


Overheats to 219k EHP against Void/anti matter which is the most common dmg type V gankers.
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Tal Tracyn

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Post 2018.12.04 18:37

Re: Occator

This is repping 7671.4 EHP a sec with boosters(Exile) and implants (Asklepians)

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[Occator, Occator Active reps]

Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

Improved Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
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Hirmuolio Pine

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Post 2018.12.04 18:42

Re: Occator

Would a gank last long enough for cap boosters to be relevant? Maybe better to keep it simple and use passive cap modules instead.
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Erwin Madelung

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Post 2018.12.04 19:22

Re: Occator

Judging from zkill tornados are used to gank DSTs in highsec. As those work with high alpha, buffer > reps anyways. Most losses in highsec are just terrible fits with Expanded Cargohold which butcher the EHP anyways. I mean, those dont even change the size of the fleet hangar. Dunno what's up with people.

Active reps are for outside of highsec where you want to crash gate or even might get help if it's in your own sov. A properly tanked DST could cold against a small gang and then you can get him out with another char or corp mates help.
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Post 2018.12.05 09:21

Re: Occator

Hirmuolio Pine wrote:Would a gank last long enough for cap boosters to be relevant? Maybe better to keep it simple and use passive cap modules instead.


1: Fitting issues and no cap at all, so that means to even run 2 reppers for a few seconds requires 2 cap boosters.
2: I prefer a buffer for my haulers but people like options for the wiki.
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