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Tal Tracyn

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Post 2018.07.30 13:55

Rupture

Updating them old fits for some new ones.

Shield Arty PVP Feet
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[Rupture, shield fleet arty]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Quake M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Quake M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Quake M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Quake M
Small 'Notos' Explosive Charge I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Warrior II x5


Fleet Armour
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[Rupture, armour buffer]

Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Gyrostabilizer II
800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

Warp Disruptor II
10MN Afterburner II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier

720mm Prototype Siege Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Prototype Siege Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Prototype Siege Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Prototype Siege Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP M
[Empty High slot]

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1


Solo PVP/PVE ?
SPOILER WARNING!
[Rupture, FT brawl rup]

Damage Control II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Medium Armor Repairer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Warp Scrambler II
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Stasis Webifier II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer

Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1


Alpha Ruppie
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[Rupture, alpha fit]

IFFA Compact Damage Control
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Prototype Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer

Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
Medium Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

220mm Medium Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Medium Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Medium Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Medium Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
[Empty High slot]

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I


Hobgoblin I x5
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Shintu Felper

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Post 2018.07.30 19:09

Re: Rupture

How alpha friendly are we aiming for the on the Alpha Rupple? I can T2 all the low slots and some of the mids and still fit as a decently skilled alpha. Otherwise the rest of the fits look solid to me.
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Post 2018.07.30 20:50

Re: Rupture

High sec combat site runner. Can do everything except Serpentis Watch (Watch also doable if you are really careful and good). It is similar to the pve fit on wiki but AC are definitely better in combat sites.
With all V it tanks 153 EHP/s against Serpentis, 373 dps @1.6+15km (drones included), 620 m/s. Blap frigates at 15 km, 5 km orbit for bigger things.
The usual: Swap hardeners, ammo and drones to match your enemies.
SPOILER WARNING!
[Rupture, PVE Explorer]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Tracking Enhancer II

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

Core Probe Launcher I, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
425mm Medium 'Scout' Autocannon I
425mm Medium 'Scout' Autocannon I
425mm Medium 'Scout' Autocannon I
425mm Medium 'Scout' Autocannon I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Hornet II x6
Phased Plasma M x1000
Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8
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Raido Kudonen

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Post 2018.07.31 02:18

Re: Rupture

Fits #1 and #3 are both fine. Arty Ruptures are not great but they're okay; generally you should just fly a Hurricane. Dual-rep AC solo Ruptures have never really been in the solo meta, but they're still quite decent.

Fit #2 is bad. 800mm plates aren't really viable on cruisers.

Fit #4 doesn't really seem to have a purpose. It has a web, which suggests PvP, but no point or scram, and it has both a cap battery and a cap booster for its dual armor reps? Very weird. I don't like it at all, but it's hard to say why it's bad because I don't even know what it's for.
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Post 2018.07.31 07:41

Re: Rupture

Thanks Raido.
Sorry i didn't label the last one .. its alpha PVE hence no scram an attempt to make a low level mission runner.
#1 and #2 were actualy pulled from a null sec fight .. i know right :D
#3 i used myself in a cruiser comp in hsc (yeah i won)
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Post 2018.07.31 07:44

Re: Rupture

Shintu Felper wrote:How alpha friendly are we aiming for the on the Alpha Rupple? I can T2 all the low slots and some of the mids and still fit as a decently skilled alpha. Otherwise the rest of the fits look solid to me.


I normaly aim for entry level so REALLY basic.
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Raido Kudonen

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Post 2018.07.31 13:07

Re: Rupture

Tal Tracyn wrote:Thanks Raido.
Sorry i didn't label the last one .. its alpha PVE hence no scram an attempt to make a low level mission runner.
#1 and #2 were actualy pulled from a null sec fight .. i know right :D
#3 i used myself in a cruiser comp in hsc (yeah i won)


Who's using armor ruptures in null?
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Post 2018.08.01 07:11

Re: Rupture

Raido Kudonen wrote:
Tal Tracyn wrote:Thanks Raido.
Sorry i didn't label the last one .. its alpha PVE hence no scram an attempt to make a low level mission runner.
#1 and #2 were actualy pulled from a null sec fight .. i know right :D
#3 i used myself in a cruiser comp in hsc (yeah i won)


Who's using armor ruptures in null?


I believe it was PH pandemic horde.
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Post 2018.08.03 04:44

Re: Rupture

Solo X-L ASB with a MWD. Drones according to your preference.

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[Rupture, Rupture - Shield MWD AutoCannons 220mm X-L ASB]

IFFA Compact Damage Control
Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer
Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer
Gyrostabilizer II
Co-Processor II

50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Small Knave Scoped Energy Nosferatu

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Valkyrie II x1
Warrior II x4


Looks like it could be a interesting choice to go after a Vexor. A Vexor on dscan can mean almost any setup, but this looks interesting as a counter possible counter in null. You will need Blue Pill. There are some variations in the fit concept, such as this one.
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Post 2018.08.03 08:01

Re: Rupture

Yeah i'm playing with XLASB's for newbro L1-L3 mission runners
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[Rupture, XLASB PVE]

Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer
Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer
Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer I
IFFA Compact Damage Control

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Limited Kinetic Deflection Field I
Limited Thermal Dissipation Field I

Dual 180mm Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
[Empty High slot]

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I


Hobgoblin I x5
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Post 2018.08.11 05:46

Re: Rupture

As Shintu suggested, Alpha clones are more capable now than they used to be when they were released. I would instead change the Alpha rupple to a new player focused fit. That fit is not very new player friendly.
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Tal Tracyn

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Post 2018.08.13 21:39

Re: Rupture

So i think the shield Arty fleet fit passes muster.
SPOILER WARNING!
[Rupture, shield fleet arty]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Quake M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Quake M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Quake M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Quake M
Small 'Notos' Explosive Charge I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Warrior II x5


armour rupture is dodgy i have to admit, so left out.

The solo pvp fit is solid.
SPOILER WARNING!
Damage Control II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Medium Armor Repairer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Warp Scrambler II
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Stasis Webifier II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer

Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1


And i'm not sure what you mean by not new player friendly Biwako with this fit?
Note: newbro mission running.
SPOILER WARNING!
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Prototype Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer

Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
Medium Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

220mm Medium Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Medium Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Medium Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Medium Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
[Empty High slot]

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I


Hobgoblin I x5


The XLABS rupture for low end missions would work and is better than some fits i've seen lately.
SPOILER WARNING!
[Rupture, XLASB PVE]

Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer
Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer
Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer I
IFFA Compact Damage Control

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Limited Kinetic Deflection Field I
Limited Thermal Dissipation Field I

Dual 180mm Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm Prototype Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
[Empty High slot]

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I


Hobgoblin I x5
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Post 2018.08.15 08:38

Re: Rupture

The fit needs PGM 5 which is roughly a 4 day 21h train on Omega or a 9 day 18h train on Alpha (without implants/accelerators). The PG needs can't be reduced further by adjusting modules without losing its essence.

Edit2: Just realized, the tipping point is the penalty from the rigs. We could leave a note to train Jury Rigging to 3 and Armor Rigging to 2 which is about 10 hours Omega and 20 hours Alpha and isn't as bad anymore.

Edit: Alternatively, it could work with a 1% implant. I'm not comfortable putting fits that need implants on T1 ships but if we can't do better here then maybe we can make an exception.

Skills aside, the EANM needs to be changed to ANP. We can leave a note to upgrade to T2 EANM when the skills are trained.
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Tal Tracyn

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Post 2018.08.16 08:00

Re: Rupture

Biwako Acami wrote:The fit needs PGM 5 which is roughly a 4 day 21h train on Omega or a 9 day 18h train on Alpha (without implants/accelerators). The PG needs can't be reduced further by adjusting modules without losing its essence.

Edit2: Just realized, the tipping point is the penalty from the rigs. We could leave a note to train Jury Rigging to 3 and Armor Rigging to 2 which is about 10 hours Omega and 20 hours Alpha and isn't as bad anymore.

Edit: Alternatively, it could work with a 1% implant. I'm not comfortable putting fits that need implants on T1 ships but if we can't do better here then maybe we can make an exception.

Skills aside, the EANM needs to be changed to ANP. We can leave a note to upgrade to T2 EANM when the skills are trained.


That fit was actualy built on PGM 4 with no implants not 5, so it will fit.
The EANM is easy to swap out with no adverse effects.
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