Mammoth

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Avrin Dennard

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Post 2018.06.27 08:59

Mammoth

Okay there are no UniWiki fittings for this one so below are the Fleet-up fittings that are available. Please comment or suggest your own better fittings.
Thanks Avrin.

Mammoth, Bulk Transport MWD-Cloak
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[Mammoth, Bulk Transport 3%PWG MWD-Cloak]

Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

Improved Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Note: This fit is nearly 3% over on PWG. Swapping out one of the rigs for a current router brings it under 100%.


Mammoth, Max Tank
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[Mammoth, Max Tank]

Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Damage Control II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
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Shintu Felper

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Post 2018.06.27 17:43

Re: Mammoth

For max transport I think the idea is to get maximum m3? The MWD is pointless on that fit unless you're slow boating because with proper skills the Mammoth will be sub 10second align. The max cargo fit I made is 9.79s align with my skills.

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[Mammoth, *Max Cargo Mammoth]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

EM Ward Amplifier II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
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Post 2018.06.27 20:47

Re: Mammoth

Thanks Shintu,

Anyone else care to comment? For a Max Cargo fit Shintu seems to be on target.

Let me know your thoughts.
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Post 2018.06.28 01:05

Re: Mammoth

Have to say this ship is in a funny spot. The Iteron Mark V and Bestower carry more and the Badger has the most tank. So this ship does nothing special over the others.

Tornados are a serious threat to this ship. If you run in gank-prone areas, and travel lightly, with the gank limit in place, the Badger should be the choice. The damage control is an attempt to try to reduce the vulnerability to PP ammunition: although I reckon most people who would be flying this won't have good skills in tank, so they're probably dead the same.

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[Mammoth, Mammoth - Shield No Prop No Guns Cargo]

Damage Control II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
[Empty High slot]

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I


While throwing a bunch of MSEs and bulkheads is nice, the reality is this ship doesn't tank very well. That fit above with 4 MSEs is interesting but it also has only 5k more EHP than my cargo fit above. The best I could work out with a LSE + hardeners and a stack of PDSs in the lows with CDFE rigs was just about 27k ehp, while the Badger can fit over 50k EHP in full tank fit or 31k EHP in full cargo fit, enough to require 3 Tornado strikes to take out.
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Erwin Madelung

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Post 2018.06.28 06:47

Re: Mammoth

Shintu Felper wrote:For max transport I think the idea is to get maximum m3? The MWD is pointless on that fit unless you're slow boating because with proper skills the Mammoth will be sub 10second align. The max cargo fit I made is 9.79s align with my skills.

The other fit is clearly intended to be used with the MWD+cloak trick. It even states so in the comments: "Works well in low-sec, but requires always usage of MWD+Cloak trick". Though I think that there are better hulls as K950 already pointed out. Maybe check which "big cargo" T1 industrial is the best for MWD + cloak trick and point people in its direction in the notes. If you only have skilled minmatar industrial it might still be a valid fit.
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Post 2018.06.28 14:23

Re: Mammoth

Erwin Madelung wrote:
Shintu Felper wrote:For max transport I think the idea is to get maximum m3? The MWD is pointless on that fit unless you're slow boating because with proper skills the Mammoth will be sub 10second align. The max cargo fit I made is 9.79s align with my skills.

The other fit is clearly intended to be used with the MWD+cloak trick. It even states so in the comments: "Works well in low-sec, but requires always usage of MWD+Cloak trick". Though I think that there are better hulls as K950 already pointed out. Maybe check which "big cargo" T1 industrial is the best for MWD + cloak trick and point people in its direction in the notes. If you only have skilled minmatar industrial it might still be a valid fit.


Ah, the notes are on the uniwiki fitting page was only looking at thread here.
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Post 2018.08.29 05:09

Re: Mammoth

We have so far just these fits:

  • Max Tank
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    [Mammoth, Max Tank]

    Reinforced Bulkheads II
    Reinforced Bulkheads II
    Reinforced Bulkheads II
    Reinforced Bulkheads II
    Damage Control II

    Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
    Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
    Medium Shield Extender II
    Medium Shield Extender II

    [Empty High slot]
    [Empty High slot]

    Medium Cargohold Optimization I
    Medium Cargohold Optimization I
    Medium Cargohold Optimization I
  • Max Cargo
    SPOILER WARNING!
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    [Mammoth, *Max Cargo Mammoth]
    Expanded Cargohold II
    Expanded Cargohold II
    Expanded Cargohold II
    Expanded Cargohold II
    Expanded Cargohold II

    EM Ward Amplifier II
    Medium Shield Extender II
    Medium Shield Extender II
    Medium Shield Extender II

    Improved Cloaking Device II

    Medium Cargohold Optimization I
    Medium Cargohold Optimization I
    Medium Cargohold Optimization I
  • Max Cargo with Cloak/MWD
    SPOILER WARNING!
      Code:
    Mammoth, Bulk Transport 3%PWG MWD-Cloak]

    Reactor Control Unit II
    Reactor Control Unit II
    Expanded Cargohold II
    Expanded Cargohold II
    Expanded Cargohold II

    50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
    [Empty Med slot]
    [Empty Med slot]
    [Empty Med slot]

    Improved Cloaking Device II
    [Empty High slot]

    Medium Cargohold Optimization I
    Medium Cargohold Optimization I
    Medium Cargohold Optimization I
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Post 2018.09.25 00:10

Re: Mammoth

Closing this thread. Fits updated on WIki.
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