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Post 2018.05.29 12:27

Magus

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Gas Boosting:
SPOILER WARNING!
[Magus, Magus Gas Boosting]
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization II
125mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I
125mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I
125mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I

Micro Jump Field Generator
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler
Small Capacitor Booster II

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
400mm Steel Plates II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Small Trimark Armor Pump II
Small Trimark Armor Pump II

Hobgoblin II x3
Hammerhead II x2

Not sure how good it is, but would like to keep; miners please comment.

NSC Reship Armor Fleet Boosts:
I've altered slightly by adding ACs, though going to rename to "Armor Fleet 2Bursts":
SPOILER WARNING!
[Magus, MWD 2Burst+AC Armor Buff - SFPD]

Damage Control II
400mm Crystalline Carbonide Restrained Plates
Centii A-Type Explosive Plating
True Sansha Adaptive Nano Plating

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Micro Jump Field Generator
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Armor Command Burst II
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Armor Command Burst II

Small Trimark Armor Pump II
Small Command Processor I


Valkyrie II x2
Hornet EC-300 x5
Warrior II x3


Hail S x1000
Barrage S x1000
Republic Fleet EMP S x1000
Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S x1000
Nanite Repair Paste x50
Navy Cap Booster 400 x15
Armor Energizing Charge x300
Rapid Repair Charge x300
Armor Reinforcement Charge x300

We have also poster AB version of armor fit, but it is no difference from MWD with exception of prop mod, going to reflect in Notes that possible to alter fit to match mainline ship prop mode.

Recommending to add:

Armor Fleet fit with 1 Burst:
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[Magus, MWD AC+Burst+Nos ArmorBuff - Command Magus]

400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating
Coreli B-Type Explosive Plating
Damage Control II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Micro Jump Field Generator
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

75mm Gatling Rail II, Spike S
Armor Command Burst II, Armor Reinforcement Charge
75mm Gatling Rail II, Spike S
Small Energy Nosferatu II
75mm Gatling Rail II, Spike S

Small Trimark Armor Pump II
Small Trimark Armor Pump II


Hobgoblin II x3
Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x2


Spike S x1000
Javelin S x1000


Nano fit:
SPOILER WARNING!
[Magus, MWD AC SAAR - Nano]

IFFA Compact Damage Control
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Micro Jump Field Generator
Warp Scrambler II
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400

125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Skirmish Command Burst II, Rapid Deployment Charge
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Skirmish Command Burst II, Interdiction Maneuvers Charge
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Barrage S

Small Command Processor I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I


Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x3


Warp Disruptor II x1
Barrage S x1000
Nanite Repair Paste x50
Navy Cap Booster 400 x10
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Xenopha Cadelanne

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Post 2018.06.03 09:22

Re: Magus

MWD AC Dual-Rep Solo

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[Magus, Magus - MWD AC Dual-Rep]

Damage Control II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Small Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Micro Jump Field Generator

200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S
Armor Command Burst II, Rapid Repair Charge
200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S
Small Energy Nosferatu II
200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II


Infiltrator II x2
Acolyte II x3
Warrior II x5


As with most dual-rep ships on expensive hulls, it's definitely viable to run deadspace reps.


AB AC Dual-Rep Solo


SPOILER WARNING!
[Magus, Magus - AB AC Dual-Rep]

Damage Control II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Small Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S
Armor Command Burst II, Rapid Repair Charge
200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S
Small Energy Neutralizer II
200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II


Infiltrator II x2
Acolyte II x3
Warrior II x5


Again, deadspace reps are viable. This fit is more intended for FW space because command dessies can in fact enter small plexes.


MWD AC Solo


SPOILER WARNING!
[Magus, Magus - MWD AC]

Damage Control II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I
Drone Damage Amplifier II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Micro Jump Field Generator

200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S
Armor Command Burst II, Rapid Repair Charge
200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S
Small Energy Nosferatu II
200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II


Infiltrator II x2
Acolyte II x3
Warrior II x5


I'm not really sure how viable this fit is, because the only advantage it has against the dual-rep fit is a web and higher resists, but the web doesn't really help that much for an AC/drone boat, and the reps are still less than the dual-rep version.


MWD Rail Kite

SPOILER WARNING!
[Magus, Magus - Rail Kite]

Damage Control II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
AE-K Compact Drone Damage Amplifier
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Initiated Compact Warp Disruptor
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

125mm Railgun II, Spike S
125mm Railgun II, Spike S
125mm Railgun II, Spike S
Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Skirmish Command Burst II, Rapid Deployment Charge

Small Transverse Bulkhead II
Small Transverse Bulkhead II


Warrior II x5
Acolyte II x3
Infiltrator II x2


I honestly have no idea how viable this is. I've never actually seen anything like it used, but it certainly is fast and can put out quite a bit of dps. Who knows, might work. Fitting an MJFG could maybe be worthwhile, but you should probably never be within 8km of an enemy in this and it would really strain fitting.
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Post 2018.06.06 16:53

Re: Magus

In relation to the gas boosting fit I just built one for myself. I am not partial to the micro jumpfield generator because you only have a 6 second to lock delay from decloaking asteros and a slightly under 6 second spool up time so its very close on time. This first fit is just straight up kill the Astero that I made it is pretty in-line with the first listed fit with just some modules/rig swapped around.

Gas Boosting Brawler
SPOILER WARNING!
[Magus, *PvP Gas]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
400mm Steel Plates II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler
Stasis Webifier II
Small Capacitor Booster II

125mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I
125mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I
125mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I
Core Probe Launcher I
Mining Foreman Burst II

Small Anti-Explosive Pump II
Small Trimark Armor Pump II



Warrior II x7
Hornet EC-300 x5

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8
Republic Fleet EMP S x600
Nanite Repair Paste x8
Mining Laser Optimization Charge x300
Navy Cap Booster 100 x5




Micro Jump Field
SPOILER WARNING!
[Magus, *PvP Gas MJD]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

Micro Jump Field Generator
Small Capacitor Booster II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler

Core Probe Launcher I
125mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I
125mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I
125mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I
Mining Foreman Burst II

Small Anti-Explosive Pump II
Small Trimark Armor Pump II



Warrior II x7
Hornet EC-300 x5

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8
Republic Fleet EMP S x600
Nanite Repair Paste x8
Mining Laser Optimization Charge x300
Navy Cap Booster 100 x5


In the case of wanting the micro jump field I tweaked my fit as well. I think it comes down to preference of how to setup tank and if you want a DDA. The one thing I would recommend at the very least is fitting the core probe launcher into the open high slot in ALL fit variants for gassing.
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Post 2018.07.31 16:49

Re: Magus

Command dessie gas boosters should no longer be a thing because of porpoises, much cheaper and with the ore hold it might save the huffers docking up if rats had been cleared or a large number of sites.
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Post 2018.07.31 19:21

Re: Magus

Problem with Porpoise is its big and slow and cant defend itself. The real problem for the do it all gas fleet is frig holes, command destroyer can fit through those while porpoise cannot.
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Post 2018.08.01 02:12

Re: Magus

Porpoise was designed to fit through frigate holes. Ship's mass is 4,500,000 and the jump limit for frig holes is 5,000,000. They are decent (when fit properly) in terms of tank and DPS from drones can threaten most small ships that act as cloaky initial tackle.
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Post 2018.08.01 19:34

Re: Magus

Ah I never saw that, that is cool. I'll still fly command destroyer for the better pvp capability and agility vs the 10% boost to boosts. I run high end ninja huffing so the ventures never fill in the 20min before spawn. At the sametime being able to boosh your fleet to safety is a nice touch. Gas boosting is a super niche thing anyways though, it would be a specialized porpoise fit as well.

I think it might be worth not doing gas boosters at all or having a sub category/gas page for just gas booster fits because the wiki is main fits and boosting gas huffers with any ship is rarely done.
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Post 2019.01.22 14:03

Re: Magus

About the Gas Boosting Magus, adding here a part of a post I wrote today on Reddit.

Can we discuss this and, in case, update the fit on the Wiki? This might actually make sense.

Keep in mind I'm mostly considering WSpace scenarios, and I don't know if the same applies to KSpace gas.

SPOILER WARNING!
[Magus, Your Favorite Magus]
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium Shield Extender II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Mining Foreman Burst II, Mining Laser Optimization Charge
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
[Empty High slot]

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Cargohold Optimization II


Maths that justifies the choice:

  • Each Prospect mines 2.66 m3/sec (2 * 1.33)
  • Under Porpoise boosts without implants, it mines 3.86 m3/s (4.34 with links)
  • Under Magus boosts without implants, it mines 3.72 m3/s (4.12 with links)
  • Meaning that using the Magus makes you lose 0.14 m3/s per venture without links, or 0.22 with links
  • ...but the Magus itself provides another 2.088 m3/s (2.313 with links) worth of mining due to the gas harvesters on the Magus itself
  • All in all, this means that the Porpoise becomes worth it over the Magus only with ~15/20 Prospects on grid
[*]The key trade-off in this case is the cargo space on the Magus, so feel free to play it risky by making the Magus' tank thinner and add more cargo expansions for maximum antitank fun ;)[/list]

Things to consider/tradeoff
  • Removing shield tank for more cargo
  • Optimizing shield tank a bit better
  • Adding MJFG

In general, I think this is such a specific case that the benefits of fitting a MJFG and/or combat stuff are just not worth it. For sure I wouldn't put a scram and a cap booster like we have in the wiki... As a real edge case, I'd rather say that people could carry PvP mods and a depot in the cargo.

If this is of interest, I can work on a cargo package to add to the fit.

Let me know!
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Post 2019.01.30 23:57

Re: Magus

I've recently found a 1.5 years old YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6WVcZQbkz4) about Solo PvP Magus, it looks amazing and I think is worth publishing as nul-sec Solo PvP fit. As far as I can guess the fit, it may look as follow:
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[Magus, MWD+MJFG AC SAAR - Solo PvP]

Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Micro Jump Field Generator
Warp Scrambler II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Armor Command Burst II, Rapid Repair Charge
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Small Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II


Hobgoblin II x3
Valkyrie II x2
Warrior II x5


Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S x1000
Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-602 x1

DPS: 263; Reps: 350 EHP/s

Armor repairer blinged to deal with CPU, but also gives a nice repair bonus. The ship itself is expensive, so this justifies blinging another repairer.
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