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Budda Sereda

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Post 2018.04.15 05:25

Exequror

Going to review existing Exequror fits, but wondering if it is worth posting a bait fit?

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[Exequror, Exequror]
1600mm Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
400mm Steel Plates II
400mm Steel Plates II
400mm Steel Plates II

Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
10MN Afterburner II

Small Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer
Small Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer
Small Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
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Post 2018.04.29 19:39

Re: Exequror

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Armor Fleet AB fit:
SPOILER WARNING!
[Exequror, Execuror, t2]

800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Reactor Control Unit II

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Medium Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Alumel-Wired Enduring Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution Script
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Anti-EM Pump I


Small Nano Gang:
SPOILER WARNING!
[Exequror, Small Nano Gang Logy Wiki(2)]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer
Armor Explosive Hardener II
800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Small Capacitor Booster II
Small Capacitor Booster II
Sensor Booster II

Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Medium Armor Maintenance Bot II x5

Nanite Repair Paste x100
Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x1
Navy Cap Booster 400 x20
ECCM Script x1


PvE Mission Logy:
SPOILER WARNING!
[Exequror, PvE SelfRep Wiki(1)]
800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Capacitor Power Relay II

10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I

Hobgoblin II x5
Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5
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Narthe Raytei

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Post 2018.05.18 11:15

Exequor

PvE SelfRep
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[Exequror, PvE SelfRep]
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I


Hobgoblin II x5
Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5

This fit is fine, however i'd suggest replacing a recharger with a small cap battery (probably compact) to increase the neut resistance of the ship by 22%. It's doesn't need to be stable running everything as in PvE, if you're watching your triggers, the wave you're currently on will only be attacking 1 ship; which means that you don't need to be running all off your outboard reps alongside your onboard reps.
[NEEDS ALTERING]

Armor AB Logy
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[Exequror, Armor AB Logy]
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Medium Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Alumel-Wired Enduring Sensor Booster
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I

800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Reactor Control Unit II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Anti-EM Pump I

This fit i'd say isn't so great, but only on the basis that it has to use a Cap Booster. For Cruiser Logi this isn't a brilliant tactic as you might be caught out by reload times or running out of charges, it also means that your cap's reaction to neuting is incredibly slow as you have to wait to hit a booster rather than having a stronger recharge speed or neut resistance. I have a suggestion for changes further below.
[NEEDS ALTERING]

Small Nano Gang Logy
SPOILER WARNING!
[Exequror, Small Nano Gang Logy]
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Small Capacitor Booster II
Small Capacitor Booster II
Sensor Booster II

Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer
Armor Explosive Hardener II
800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Medium Armor Maintenance Bot II x5

Nanite Repair Paste x100
Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x1
Navy Cap Booster 400 x20
ECCM Script x1

Again, not so great. double cap boosters makes for very inconsistent cap (as noted above), and the Exeq really shouldn't be using an MWD. The idea for flying this ship is that you warp in at range and burn off and hold range with your fleet between you and the bad guys. You don't need the speed to keep up with an armour doctrine and even with an MWD you'd never escape someone attempting to tackle you. You're just giving them a bigger target (from the MWD sig bloom) that can barely handle it's own Cap pool. I have a suggestion for changes further below.
[NEEDS ALTERING]

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PvP Group
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[Exequror, PvP Group]

Damage Control II
Energized Explosive Membrane II
Energized Kinetic Membrane II
Energized Thermal Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
800mm Crystalline Carbonide Restrained Plates

10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Medium Cap Battery II
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster

Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II

Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I


Medium Armor Maintenance Bot II x5


Standard Mindflood Booster x1
Nanite Repair Paste x80
Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x1

This fit I'd propose to replace the "Armor AB Logy". It's got about 3k less ehp, but is faster and doesn't rely on cap boosters for it's cap. The fact that it also doesn't use active hardeners means that if it manages to get neuted by something it still has a tank that can keep it alive for another logi in the fleet to attempt to catch it.

PvP Solo
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[Exequror, PvP Armour Self]

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Medium Cap Battery II
Sensor Booster II, ECCM Script
Cap Recharger II

Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I


Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I x5


Nanite Repair Paste x30
Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x1

I'd propose this fit to replace the "Small Nano Gang Logy". It doesn't require two cap boosters to run and due to the reasons stated above it uses an AB. It doesn't have the buffer that the one above uses as it is aimed at being a solo logi, if you're running with more than one you should be using.

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Budda Sereda

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Post 2018.05.18 13:06

Re: Exequror

Again, not so great. double cap boosters makes for very inconsistent cap (as noted above), and the Exeq really shouldn't be using an MWD. The idea for flying this ship is that you warp in at range and burn off and hold range with your fleet between you and the bad guys. You don't need the speed to keep up with an armour doctrine and even with an MWD you'd never escape someone attempting to tackle you. You're just giving them a bigger target (from the MWD sig bloom) that can barely handle it's own Cap pool. I have a suggestion for changes further below.

Nano fleet is designed for small gang and you MUST have MWD: you need to be able to pull range and do that quick enough. And that is why it needs two cap boosters. BTW, that's not my fit, posted by Glassi in his topic about small gang fits: https://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtop ... 04&t=92059
Though, today I would consider seriously alternative nano fit:
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[Exequror, Exequror - solo logi nano]

Damage Control II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Alumel-Wired Enduring Sensor Booster

Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I x5

Replacing plate by nanofiber allows ship to be more agile (1 less second when MWD off and 2 when it is on), quicker (2270 m/s vs 1788 m/s), and have better tank (320 EHP/s vs 244 EHP/s). Cost - 13k EHP. Quite a lot, but what matter is not a tank, but if you pull the range quickly enough. Though, extra tank can give you a bit time and chance for DD to clear tackle while you are running.

Solo PvP fit you've offered probably makes sense, it could work for an AB small armor fleet, but it should not be a replacement for nano fit, their purpose is different. And the name is confusing: it assumes you fight with your exeq solo :) I'd name it like "Small Gang Single logy", but would love to hear feedback from experts.
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Post 2018.05.18 13:24

Re: Exequror

This fit is fine, however i'd suggest replacing a recharger with a small cap battery (probably compact) to increase the neut resistance of the ship by 22%. It's doesn't need to be stable running everything as in PvE, if you're watching your triggers, the wave you're currently on will only be attacking 1 ship; which means that you don't need to be running all off your outboard reps alongside your onboard reps.

Fit becomes less cap stable, but if it works in one of modes (either sel-reps or reps target) it is stable enough and extra neut resist is beneficial. Updated. Thanks!
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Post 2018.05.18 13:29

Re: Exequror

Budda Sereda wrote:And the name is confusing: it assumes you fight with your exeq solo :) I'd name it like "Small Gang Single logy", but would love to hear feedback from experts.

"Solo Logi" is a common term to describe being the only logistics in your fleet. Changing it would be confusing.
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Post 2018.05.18 20:32

Re: Exequror

Conci Furiram wrote:
Budda Sereda wrote:And the name is confusing: it assumes you fight with your exeq solo :) I'd name it like "Small Gang Single logy", but would love to hear feedback from experts.

"Solo Logi" is a common term to describe being the only logistics in your fleet. Changing it would be confusing.

Got it, I see how my wording can be confusing.

At the same time, when we published fits earlier we used "Solo PvP" for fits that are supposed to be flown solo. And even though that was in a context of DD ships, for logies "Solo PvP" is a poor name.

Though, you Conci suggested another name "Solo Logi" - this works better.
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