Creating a PI Skill plan for an alt

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Johan IV Hilanen

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Post 2019.09.25 19:35

Creating a PI Skill plan for an alt

Hi folks,

Looking for some feedback on making a skill plan for a PI alt. The requirements are that the plan must finish within 60 days (i.e. 2x MTC only). I have based the skills on being able to fly an Epithal (fit found here) https://www.eveworkbench.com/fitting/epithal/5c174649-9425-4927-78ed-08d6febb0246 or
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[Epithal, Safety PI hauler]
Warp Core Stabilizer II
Warp Core Stabilizer II
Warp Core Stabilizer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender

Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I


I have created a plan on EVEMon but not sure if the 'spoiler' function works how I have used it, please let me know how to best share the details. The time below is based on the active clone, and would complete in 59d 20h 33m 50s with +3 implants.

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Infomorph Psychology I
Remote Sensing I
Command Center Upgrades I
Interplanetary Consolidation I
Remote Sensing II
Social I
Contracting I
Shield Operation I
Shield Operation II
Cloaking I
Shield Management II
Evasive Maneuvering II
Shield Upgrades II
Marketing II
Gallente Industrial II
Command Center Upgrades II
Interplanetary Consolidation II
Tactical Shield Manipulation II
Remote Sensing III
Planetology I
Planetology II
Planetology III
Gallente Frigate II
Warp Drive Operation III
Shield Operation III
Trade III
Cloaking II
Gallente Frigate III
Evasive Maneuvering III
Shield Upgrades III
Shield Management III
Tactical Shield Manipulation III
Gallente Industrial III
Command Center Upgrades III
Interplanetary Consolidation III
Spaceship Command IV
Navigation IV
Warp Drive Operation IV
Shield Operation IV
Mechanics IV
Cloaking III
Hull Upgrades IV
Tactical Shield Manipulation IV
Trade IV
Customs Code Expertise I
Customs Code Expertise II
Customs Code Expertise III
Interplanetary Consolidation IV
Command Center Upgrades IV
Planetology IV
Advanced Planetology I
Advanced Planetology II
Advanced Planetology III
Explosive Shield Compensation I
Kinetic Shield Compensation I
EM Shield Compensation I
Thermal Shield Compensation I
Explosive Shield Compensation II
Kinetic Shield Compensation II
Thermal Shield Compensation II
EM Shield Compensation II
Command Center Upgrades V
Interplanetary Consolidation V

28 unique skills, 63 skill levels; Total time: 67 days, 7 hours, 37 seconds


Any comments on pros, cons or improvements/better skill options would be much appreciated.
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Post 2019.09.25 20:16

Re: Creating a PI Skill plan for an alt

It doesn't look like you're missing anything crucial, at first glance.

Are you planning to do this PI in Null? WH space? High? I might re-arrange based on location. In Null or WH, you don't usually need Customs Code Exp. In high, I gently suggest you skip planetology or extra remote sensing levels, since money-making PI ventures in high are usually import-build-export setups instead of harvest operations.

I suggest using a market alt to trade, so if you don't need Customs Code, you won't need Trade IV.
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Post 2019.09.25 20:27

Re: Creating a PI Skill plan for an alt

Thanks Falling Snow KumaMoto.

Appreciate the feedback, I am currently in HSC but would be aiming to move to more profitable space with the PI alt so you are probably right about getting rid of the Customs Expertise etc. The character will need to be semi self reliant and haul what it produces but this should be P2/3 eventually.

I suppose with 60 days to train I will be able to get to null/WH space so can replace those skills with something else.

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Ann'Dra Padecain

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Post 2019.09.26 04:32

Re: Creating a PI Skill plan for an alt

Hi, somebody sketched a plan on the Wiki that may help:
https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Creating_a_Planetary_Interaction_Alt

Not sure if I'd remap on such a short train. Also, the Wiki plan seems short enough to cook two PI alts... Or save one MCT for when you branch to yet another profession - I think a semi-decent trading alt also fits into a month...

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Post 2019.09.27 07:22

Re: Creating a PI Skill plan for an alt

Thank you Ann'Dra Padecain, appreciate the link.

I had been focusing on getting to level V skills but you have raised a good point with 2 alts on level IV being better.....hmmmm
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Post 2019.09.28 10:25

Re: Creating a PI Skill plan for an alt

Thanks to you both for the tips and feedback. I have had a look and refined the above to target a 30 day MTC timescale, incorporate your suggestions on the usefulness of some of the skills in null/wh space and used the Uni Wiki guide as a basis too.

The skill plan on the Wiki is 12-14 days depending on whether you use remapping or not and so I have played with that and added some other skills with the last couple just being added to ensure no wasted time on the 30 days and also being useful for any future extra time I might train the character.

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***Remapping (active) : i21 p17 c27 w17 m17***
Retail I
Retail II
Broker Relations I
Broker Relations II
Command Center Upgrades I
Command Center Upgrades II
Command Center Upgrades III
Command Center Upgrades IV
Command Center Upgrades V
Interplanetary Consolidation I
Interplanetary Consolidation II
Interplanetary Consolidation III
Interplanetary Consolidation IV
Social I
Contracting I
Trade III
Trade IV
Accounting I
Accounting II
Infomorph Psychology I
Infomorph Psychology II
***Remapping (active) : i27 p17 c17 w17 m21***
Remote Sensing I
Remote Sensing II
Remote Sensing III
Planetology I
Planetology II
Planetology III
Planetology IV
Advanced Planetology I
Advanced Planetology II
Energy Grid Upgrades II
Signature Analysis III
Evasive Maneuvering II
Evasive Maneuvering III
Shield Management II
Shield Management III
Fuel Conservation I
Fuel Conservation II
Tactical Shield Manipulation II
Tactical Shield Manipulation III
Tactical Shield Manipulation IV
Warp Drive Operation III
Warp Drive Operation IV
Cloaking I
Cloaking II
Cloaking III
Gallente Industrial II
Gallente Industrial III
Gallente Frigate II
Gallente Frigate III
Gallente Destroyer I
Biology I
Biology II
Cybernetics II


This is a combination and with a view to training more in the future. Again with +3 implants the time is 30d 1h 22m 47s (so Cybernetics II does not finish but gets 23s of training ( :roll: ).

I have kept Trade IV but only as I thought Accounting skills could be useful with PI and Contracting/Infomorph are quality of life additions. The other skills allow the Epithal fit (above) to continue to be used and seems like a good idea to get the materials back to the main campus building where I may just use the buyback programs before I can organise a proper hauling alt.

I have stuck with the 30 day timescale on the basis you cannot use the certificate and on one character and then switch to another, half way through but having never used a MTC is that an option?

Thanks for you input so far, would appreciate a little more...…cheers!
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Post 2019.09.28 13:32

Re: Creating a PI Skill plan for an alt

I have stuck with the 30 day timescale on the basis you cannot use the certificate and on one character and then switch to another, half way through but having never used a MTC is that an option?


Yes it is an option. A MCT allows an account to have +1 skill queue actively running at one time. If your main stays training for example, you could have Alt 1 train for 15 days, pause the queue on the Alt 1, and then start the queue on Alt 2.

Of course, with the basic PI Alt plan being 12-14 days, you would likely end up using 2 MCT to grab much of anything beyond it anyway, for some of your additions on your skill plan - so training Alt 1 30 days and Alt 2 30 days, is the same as training each for half a month on each of 2 MCT.
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Post 2019.09.29 19:26

Re: Creating a PI Skill plan for an alt

Thanks again all of you - learnt a lot doing this.

Choices, choices......

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