Post 2019.07.16 17:05

Myrmidon: Passive C3 Site depot refit question

Hey friends,

I have a question regarding https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Myrmidon/Fittings#Passive_C3_Myrmidon and the idea of refitting mid-site with a mobile depot.
The Fit
  Code:
[Myrmidon, Passive C3 Sites]
650mm Medium 'Scout' Artillery I
650mm Medium 'Scout' Artillery I
650mm Medium 'Scout' Artillery I
650mm Medium 'Scout' Artillery I
650mm Medium 'Scout' Artillery I

EM Ward Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Infiltrator II x2
Curator II x4
Praetor II x3

Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium M x400
Republic Fleet EMP M x400
Core Scanner Probe I x8
Mobile Depot x1
Drone Damage Amplifier II x3
Core Probe Launcher I x1


So it appears that this would be a situation where you would swap to your DDA's when tank isn't as necessary. But, in practice, what does this mean?
For example, from Rykki's Gudie, an unsecured frontier receiver:
  Code:
Wave 1 DPS=266 EHP=54,360
5   Emergent Defender   F      
2   Awakened Preserver   C   
Wave 2 DPS=370 EHP=133,930
3   Awakened Defender   C
1   Awakened Preserver   C
3   Awakened Upholder   C
Wave 3 DPS=431 EHP=101,771
4   Emergent Upholder   F
1   Sleepless Defender   B
Wave 4 DPS=708 EHP=141,867
4   Emergent Defender   F
2   Sleepless Preserver   B


When would I be wanting to swap out three Shield Power Relay's for DDA's? Would I want to try and take the first two waves with less tank, put out more drone damage and then swap to the additional relay's before wave 3 and 4?

Also, would you carry a complement of T2 light drones to clear out frigates, or would you try to take them out with your 650mm artillery? Would I want to clear frigates out first, and then focus on Cruisers, then battleships?

I attempted a C2 site with this fit the other night:
  Code:
[Myrmidon, Passive C2 Myrmidon]
Drone Link Augmentor I
Prototype Cloaking Device I

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Target Painter I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Berserker I x2
Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x 5


I launched an MTU and slapped a remote repair on it, which drew aggro from my drones to me. And I made it through the first wave without an issue. The second wave spawned a little too far from me, and I wasn't able to lock targets, so my drones went on indepentent ops and triggered the third wave too early. I took one too many missles and ate it. But it illustrated an interesting point - with either of these fits, my Myrm is too slow to shake a missile. Each one -will- hit.