[AAR] Rattlesnake down.

[Ky Hanomaa]

Roam members (21)

Spoiler

Batto Ashitaka - Osprey
Cari Tulane - Caracal
Danny Algaert
Devola Gestalt - Caracal
Dinah Arsten - Slasher
Ergan Eto - Caracal
Ghad Makanen - Hyperion
Gibson Thunderbird - Machariel
Helen Dorothy Sharman - Taranis
Hikaru Sakai - Merlin
Julien Alaphilippe
Ky Hanomaa
Lobesorehauler
Max Tsero - Manticore
Nienke Solette
Parrish Askiras - Caracal
Rogue Ozran - Caracal Navy Issue
Shawn Olerie - Caracal
Yto Itinen - Caracal
Zairnix Onren - Caracal
lobevaser

Kills and Losses

QRF was formed for Wartargets. They left. Right after, a Rattlesnake and Ferox went suspect in Amygnon. Yto found them in an Emerging Conduit and provided Tackle and Warp-In for the previously formed QRF. Yto went down and Ferox slipped away. Rattle died.

(22:46:02) Amygnon
Caracal -20.31m
Rattlesnake +2525.49m
Caracal -13.43m

Stats
ISK Destroyed: 2,525,490,900.57
ISK Lost: 33,746,778.55
ISK Delta: 2,491,744,122.02
Efficiency: 98.681%

Overall evaluation

• ✔ (Positive stuff)
  - Uhh...we got 2.5B served at our front door? I think that's a positive.
  
  ✘ (Negative stuff)
  - Well, the rats switching their aggro to the guys killing the guy that's killing them. Makes sense, right?

[Max Tsero]

Ky,

Why my Manticore not on Roam Members list? :-p

[Ergan Eto]

FYI - I got 2nd highest damage... and wasn't listed. 8-(

[Batto Ashitaka]

It was a nice kill. The only problem as a logi was not being able to rep Yto (At least with green safeties).
I'd be interested to know what exactly happened so next time I can save the hero tackle.

[Anidien Dallacort]

It was a nice kill. The only problem as a logi was not being able to rep Yto (At least with green safeties).
I'd be interested to know what exactly happened so next time I can save the hero tackle.

He was under a limited engagement timer, as a result of attacking a suspect in High Sec.

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Timers#L ... ment_Timer

I believe if you offensively engage the suspect first, and become part of the limited engagement, then you are good to go - but remote assistance alone is itself a suspect act (since until you are part of the limited engagement, the suspect can't legally fire back on you as part of the combat).

[Yto Itinen]

My face when I tackle both the rattle and the ferox

Thanks to the QRF guys being on top of their game and noticing my caps lock in chat, this was a fat catch at the right place at the right time!
Btw, I called for yellow safeties, but it was kinda overridden on the way to the engagement.
Still, not gonna worry about a caracal, but having an idea of what actions need what safety is a good point for the future.

Fly fun!

[Nienke Solette]

It was a nice kill. The only problem as a logi was not being able to rep Yto (At least with green safeties).
I'd be interested to know what exactly happened so next time I can save the hero tackle.

He was under a limited engagement timer, as a result of attacking a suspect in High Sec.

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Timers#L ... ment_Timer

I believe if you offensively engage the suspect first, and become part of the limited engagement, then you are good to go - but remote assistance alone is itself a suspect act (since until you are part of the limited engagement, the suspect can't legally fire back on you as part of the combat).

Interfering in a fight between two capsuleers as Logi in high-sec is even a criminal offence, hence yellow safeties wouldn't even work. One fighting drone is, I think, indeed the solution.

[Anidien Dallacort]

“ Any other pilot interfering in the combat between two pilots with active limited engagements, such as using remote support modules on one of the parties, will receive a suspect flag for the interference.”

Since it creates a suspect condition and not criminal, yellow safety would work.

Effectively, it creates a situation in which the original suspect, can choose to legally fire on the Logi, if they so choose.

[Ernesto Guevarti]

“ Any other pilot interfering in the combat between two pilots with active limited engagements, such as using remote support modules on one of the parties, will receive a suspect flag for the interference.”

Since it creates a suspect condition and not criminal, yellow safety would work.

Effectively, it creates a situation in which the original suspect, can choose to legally fire on the Logi, if they so choose.

That section is out of date, see the bit below about remote support.

[Anidien Dallacort]

Rofl. The EVE support article linked in the wiki even supports the language in the wiki.

But this support article supports the criminal flag:

https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/ ... inal-Timer


I’ll tweak the wiki page a bit.

[Ersin Oghuz]

Jackpot on the catch but it seems loot fairy was not feeling generous that day. Even so, I am so happy to read this AAR, which shows the proper content generation and pvp eagerness of the HSC! Continue on that

[Ky Hanomaa]

Found this in the chatlogs, should highlight the randomness of the situation, paired with Yto being typey that day

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[ 2019.11.18 22:43:08 ] Yto Itinen > wwww to yto
[ 2019.11.18 22:43:12 ] Yto Itinen > ferox rattle suspects
[ 2019.11.18 22:43:17 ] Yto Itinen > in the emerging in amy
[ 2019.11.18 22:43:22 ] Yto Itinen > ^^^^^^^^^^^
[ 2019.11.18 22:43:24 ] Yto Itinen > GUYS!
[ 2019.11.18 22:43:35 ] Yto Itinen > HELLO!
[ 2019.11.18 22:43:54 ] Helen Dorothy Sharman > coming in a tackle now
[ 2019.11.18 22:43:55 ] Yto Itinen > rattle suspect
[ 2019.11.18 22:44:03 ] Batto Ashitaka > oh my god
[ 2019.11.18 22:44:04 ] Yto Itinen > do i go for tackle?
[ 2019.11.18 22:44:10 ] Yto Itinen > caracal
[ 2019.11.18 22:44:11 ] Yto Itinen > ham
[ 2019.11.18 22:44:17 ] Yto Itinen > quick
[ 2019.11.18 22:44:24 ] Yto Itinen > www
[ 2019.11.18 22:44:29 ] Yto Itinen > safes yellow
[ 2019.11.18 22:44:31 ] Yto Itinen > www
[ 2019.11.18 22:44:44 ] Yto Itinen > he not reacting