Arrek Lemmont wrote:Yes it was certainly fun. More fleets like that are welcome. Great to get feedback from outside too. I understand now why you didn't see the Devoter as threatening bait - you didn't know about its bubble.
Clearly, I do know that Devoter can bubble you. I just forgot that during the fleet because the last time I saw Devoter was in WHC, like more than a year ago.
But even if you told me during the fleet: Hey Budda, watch out, Devouter can bubble you. I would most likely answer: who cares? We are kiting anyway. TBH, right now I don't remember the exact range we were at, but no matter what, we should be able to pull the range and warp away.
I believe I wrote this already, so sorry for repeating myself.
Arrek Lemmont wrote:Something has me confused. You said earlier in the thread that newer pilots should train into and fly mainline DD (I agree). But later you agree with someone who says you discourage newer pilots from flying mainline DD. Which is your opinion? Or were you just being agreeable with the commenter to keep everyone happy?
I believe you are referring to this:
DeanSherman wrote:The problem is this 'proper' fleet composition. 7 DD and 10 support ships. This comp does not have dps to actually kill anything that will want to fight against 17 ships.
Do you need CD? Could have another Caracal instead.
Do you need 3 logi for 7 DD? It looks like this fleet comp has more repping power than dps. Logi job is not to keep everyone alive, it is to buy time to win engagements. 2 logi would be enough and you could have 1 more Caracal.
Hyena would be useful? No, one more Caracal would be very useful.
Budda, you discourage low-sp pilots from flying mainline dps and encourage relatively high-sp pilots to fly support. As a result, you do not have enough Caracals to make it work.
Which I answered:
Budda Sereda wrote:I tend to agree with this.
Which means I agree there is a valid criticism, but I don't completely agree with all the concerns.
Let's go through that again:
* Raido confirmed the usefulness of CD and 3 logies.
* I described my thinking process on why I accepted Space with bomber, but he is not a low-skill pilot and he should have trained BLAP. I'm sure he has BLAP trained, just chose to join in a bomber. I agree that a proper FC should have called him to switch into a doctrine ship, not necessarily DD.
* The only valid concern regarding 'discourage newer pilots from flying mainline DD' are Griffin and Maulus. No, I don't discourage mainline DD. Neither I discourage training BLAP.
Instead, I do believe that each E-Uni pilot should train BLAP skills and do it earlier rather than later. It is great doctrine, it is hard to master, but the BLAP Caracal in particular in nul-sec is one which the best matches E-Uni. Just pick your fights.