Porpoise

2018.04.30 18:37 by Tau Hopper

As far as Industrial Command Ships go, I noticed that, while we have several Orca fits in the wiki, there is none for the Porpoise:

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Porpoise/Fittings

Searching the forums, I could find the following fit by Tordormore for WH diving and various other uses:

SPOILER WARNING!: [Porpoise, Multi-Porpoise] Damage Control II Inertial Stabilizers II 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Medium Shield Extender II Small Tractor Beam II Mining Foreman Burst II Mining Foreman Burst II Improved Cloaking Device II Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 'Augmented' Ice Harvesting Drone x1 'Augmented' Mining Drone x5 Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x2701 Mining Laser Optimization Charge x2701

, and here is my own for mining and boosting in high-sec:

SPOILER WARNING!: [Porpoise, High-sec] Damage Control II Inertial Stabilizers II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Survey Scanner II Mining Foreman Burst II, Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge Mining Foreman Burst II, Mining Laser Optimization Charge Small Tractor Beam II Auto Targeting System II Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II Medium Drone Mining Augmentor I Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Mining Drone II x5 Ice Harvesting Drone II x1 Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x1000 Mining Laser Optimization Charge x1000

In the latter case, the Auto Targeting System II module is used to increase the maximum number of targets from 5 to 8, allowing for a separate asteroid to be targeted per mining drone plus some additional rocks – or cans to be pulled.

I don't know if either would qualify for the wiki, but I guess they could serve as the basis for something not too different to be published, isn't it?

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EDIT: drones and mid-slots updated on the second fit.

2018.04.30 23:17 by JohnPlayerNotSpecial

Now for the porp (in my opinion):

SPOILER WARNING!: [Porpoise, Loser Porp] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Large Shield Extender II 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Mining Foreman Burst II Mining Foreman Burst II Small Tractor Beam II [Empty High slot] Medium Transverse Bulkhead II Medium Transverse Bulkhead II Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II Acolyte II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Mining Drone II x5 Ice Harvesting Drone II x1 Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x1 Mining Laser Optimization Charge x1

^ This fit is for not Wormhole. Tanks like a poor man skiff, and aligns like a cruiser. Compromise between drone yield and tank, needs to get close to rocks in order to dronemine somewhat okayish but the same is said for any dronemining ship unless you want to sacrifice modules (aka tank in this case) for dronespeed/yield. But then main thing is boosts, which with perfect skills + implant is 38% vs 40pointsomething% with an orca. Relevant boosts are ofc speed & range. Remove the tractor for a prototype cloak if you want WH diving.

2018.05.01 01:26 by Tau Hopper

JohnPlayerNotSpecial wrote:This fit is for not Wormhole. Tanks like a poor man skiff, and aligns like a cruiser. Compromise between drone yield and tank, [...]

Now that you mention the tank, I realized I had swapped a couple of active mid-slot modules for passive ones in my Porpoise for the sake of laziness, but these should really be an Adaptive Invulnerability Field II and EM Ward Field II same as yours - so I've updated the above post.

Concerning the yield, mine achieves the ideal 1.113m3/min with T2 drones. But regardless of whether one would trade some drone mining rigs for further structure HPs, using Inertial Stabilizers II instead of Reinforced Bulkheads II on the second low-slot means the ship would align in 5s instead of 6.63s. In high-sec I'd be partial towards the former, but I don't know what would be better in other scenarios.

JohnPlayerNotSpecial wrote:Remove the tractor for a prototype cloak if you want WH diving.

According to Pyfa, a Prototype Cloaking Device I would fit in your case without having to remove the tractor beam, so I'd simply add it to your fit. In fact, I used to have one on mine until I felt it wasn't that necessary in high-sec, and being able to target additional 'roids was more convenient.

So, should we perhaps include both your fit (for general purpose / WH) and mine (for mining boosts / yield) in the wiki?

2018.05.01 02:29 by Eadrom Vintarus

A fleet boosting porpoise and a solo mining/multi-box porpoise are going to be fit differently.

Fleet is generally going to prioritize boosts, and utility like a remote repper, tractor beam, drone damage strength. The porpoise's yield isn't as large of a consideration here so shouldn't be a focus for the fit.

A mining/multi-box fit is generally going to fit as much mining drone yield as can be strapped on while still having the defenses to clear whatever rats spawn where it will be used and give a couple boosts to barge alts.

Tank consideration is going to be mostly a function of needing to tank rats that spawn (that you want to kill with the mining fleet and not swap for dps boats) and how much time you want to have to call in help or to dissuade high sec ganks.

I will post some fits I've used in various parts of space for consideration today or tomorrow (leaving for the movies right now).

2018.10.02 12:57 by Alexander Oromov

high sec porpoise - solo or fleet - mobile depot and refits in cargo

SPOILER WARNING!: [Porpoise, X-SB ⁂ Paris | ☭ 18.55m3/s ❄ 15.20m3/s ✈ 125m/s | 6.63s ✚ 70'376 EHP | Industrial Command Ship] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Survey Scanner II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Small Tractor Beam II Mining Foreman Burst II Mining Foreman Burst II Salvager II Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II Medium Drone Mining Augmentor I Mining Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x1 Warrior II x1 Warrior II x1 Warrior II x1 Warrior II x1 Warrior II x1 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Hornet EC-300 x1 Hornet EC-300 x1 Hornet EC-300 x1 Hornet EC-300 x1 Hornet EC-300 x1 Ice Harvesting Drone II x1 Ship Scanner II x1 Sensor Booster II x1 Cargo Scanner II x1 Burst Jammer II x1 Prototype Cloaking Device I x1 Warp Core Stabilizer II x1 Liquid Ozone x250 Cynosural Field Generator I x1 Nanite Repair Paste x100 Targeting Range Script x1 Scan Resolution Script x1 Mobile Depot x1 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive x1 ECCM Script x1 Active Shielding Charge x300 Shield Harmonizing Charge x300 Shield Extension Charge x300 Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x300 Mining Laser Optimization Charge x300 Mining Equipment Preservation Charge x300 Shield Command Burst II x2

low sec porpoise - solo or fleet - mobile depot and refits in cargo

SPOILER WARNING!: [Porpoise, X-SB ⁂ Philotas | ☭ 15.45m3/s ❄ 12.20m3/s ✈ 31.3m/s | 5.68s ✚ 55'619 EHP | Industrial Command Ship - Low Security Edition] Damage Control II Warp Core Stabilizer II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Survey Scanner II Burst Jammer II Small Tractor Beam II Mining Foreman Burst II Mining Foreman Burst II Cynosural Field Generator I Medium Drone Mining Augmentor I Medium Drone Mining Augmentor I Medium Higgs Anchor I Mining Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x1 Warrior II x1 Warrior II x1 Warrior II x1 Warrior II x1 Warrior II x1 Hornet EC-300 x1 Hornet EC-300 x1 Hornet EC-300 x1 Hornet EC-300 x1 Hornet EC-300 x1 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Ice Harvesting Drone II x1 Reinforced Bulkheads II x1 Ship Scanner II x1 Sensor Booster II x1 Cargo Scanner II x1 Adaptive Invulnerability Field II x1 Prototype Cloaking Device I x1 Liquid Ozone x250 Nanite Repair Paste x100 Targeting Range Script x1 Scan Resolution Script x1 Salvager II x1 Mobile Depot x1 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive x1 ECCM Script x1 Active Shielding Charge x300 Shield Harmonizing Charge x300 Shield Extension Charge x300 Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x300 Mining Laser Optimization Charge x300 Mining Equipment Preservation Charge x300 Shield Command Burst II x2

2019.01.07 10:33 by Tau Hopper

BUMP

Back in Summer, some real-life stuff got in the way of me keeping track of this thread, but I really think we should publish at least a couple of clear, simple fits in the wiki - there isn't a single week we are not asked for tips on how to fit a Porpoise at AMC.

Can we at least agree on this vanilla fit with a focus on boosting:

SPOILER WARNING!: [Porpoise, Porpoise (Boosting)] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Survey Scanner II Mining Foreman Burst II, Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge Mining Foreman Burst II, Mining Laser Optimization Charge Shield Command Burst II Small Tractor Beam II Medium Command Processor I Medium Transverse Bulkhead II Medium Transverse Bulkhead II Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Ice Harvesting Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x5 Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x1000 Mining Laser Optimization Charge x1000 Shield Harmonizing Charge x1000

, and this one for mining?

SPOILER WARNING!: [Porpoise, Porpoise (Mining)] Damage Control II Inertial Stabilizers II 50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Survey Scanner II Mining Foreman Burst II Mining Foreman Burst II Small Tractor Beam II Salvager II Medium Drone Mining Augmentor I Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Ice Harvesting Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x5 Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x1000 Mining Laser Optimization Charge x1000

2019.01.23 14:10 by Tau Hopper

As suggested by Netan Emerson, the boosting fit above should probably be split into two versions - one with two Mining Foreman Bursts and more tank:

SPOILER WARNING!: [Porpoise, Porpoise (Boosting, 2 Bursts)] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Survey Scanner II Mining Foreman Burst II, Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge Mining Foreman Burst II, Mining Laser Optimization Charge Small Tractor Beam II Salvager II Medium Transverse Bulkhead II Medium Transverse Bulkhead II Medium Transverse Bulkhead II Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Ice Harvesting Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x5 Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x1000 Mining Laser Optimization Charge x1000 Shield Harmonizing Charge x1000

, and the one I already posted, which illustrates how a third burst could be fit with the usage of a Medium Command Processor I:

SPOILER WARNING!: [Porpoise, Porpoise (Boosting, 3 Bursts)] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Survey Scanner II Mining Foreman Burst II, Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge Mining Foreman Burst II, Mining Laser Optimization Charge Shield Command Burst II Small Tractor Beam II Medium Command Processor I Medium Transverse Bulkhead II Medium Transverse Bulkhead II Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Ice Harvesting Drone II x1 Mining Drone II x5 Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x1000 Mining Laser Optimization Charge x1000 Shield Harmonizing Charge x1000

2019.02.02 18:17 by Tau Hopper

With the assistance of Dunar Dolorgiet, the above fits for the Porpoise have finally made their way into fleet-up - and have now been propagated to the wiki:

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Porpoise#Fitting

2019.03.20 07:00 by Ersin Oghuz

Tau Hopper wrote:With the assistance of Dunar Dolorgiet, the above fits for the Porpoise have finally made their way into fleet-up - and have now been propagated to the wiki:

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Porpoise#Fitting

the naming of the two fits were not correct as well as the charges in cargo:
2 burst fit has 3 bursts and 2 charge types in cargo
3 burst fit has 2 bursts and 3 charge types in cargo

2019.03.20 07:18 by Tau Hopper

In the above post, the only oversight were the Shield Harmonizing Charges left in the cargo hold in the two-bursts fit.

It was supposedly addressed when it was brought to fleet-up, but I see the names were swapped and the extra charges removed from the wrong fit

I didn't have the necessary access rights to fleet-up at the time, so someone else posted them and made that amendment for me, but I do now. So I've corrected it already - and the wiki should pick the changes within 24 hours.

Thanks for the heads up.

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