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Post 2017.02.12 14:37

Navitas

Current fittings:

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[Navitas, AB]
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

1MN Afterburner II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster, ECCM Script

Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I



Navy Cap Booster 400 x1


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[Navitas, MWD]
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster, ECCM Script

Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I



Cap Booster 25 x1
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Mathias Korvanis

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Post 2017.02.16 03:54

Re: Navitas

Both fits look good to me. I would consider doing versions using only T1 fittings to allow for use by very new players without access to T2 mods and for those player that only have alpha status
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Post 2017.02.16 04:34

Re: Navitas

The AB fit looks fine. The discussion on inquisitor fits lead to not including an MWD version there though, are there good reason to include the MWD fit here?
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Post 2017.02.16 11:21

Re: Navitas

I think the goal was to keep T1 fits Alpha capable.

We could start with a fit like this that can be used by day 1 gallente character after training Remote Armor Repair Systems I:
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[Navitas, AB]

Damage Control I
'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster, ECCM Script

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Hobgoblin I x1


Navy Cap Booster 400 x1


In the notes we can give advice on how to level it up further:
  • Upgrade to Damage Control II after training Hull Upgrades IV
  • Omega Pilots can swap 'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I to Energized Adaptive Nano Memberane II after training Hull Upgrades V
  • Omega Pilots can swap 1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner to 1MN Afterburner II for more speed after training Afterburner IV

The MWD fit is cap stable (with the right charges) on all 5s but the stability is skill dependent and can fall off at very low skill levels. For an Alpha pilot even If we change modules like in the AB fit to meet skill requirements it would still need EG-601 implant to make it work.

Edit: Forgot the drone to get on killmails :D
Edit2: Meta4 Cap booster based on Kaos's feedback
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Post 2017.02.16 23:04

Re: Navitas

Biwako Acami wrote:I think the goal was to keep T1 fits Alpha capable.

We could start with a fit like this that can be used by day 1 gallente character after training Remote Armor Repair Systems I:
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[Navitas, AB]

Damage Control I
'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster, ECCM Script

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Hobgoblin I x1


Navy Cap Booster 400 x1


In the notes we can give advice on how to level it up further:
  • Upgrade to Damage Control II after training Hull Upgrades IV
  • Omega Pilots can swap 'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I to Energized Adaptive Nano Memberane II after training Hull Upgrades V
  • Omega Pilots can swap 1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner to 1MN Afterburner II for more speed after training Afterburner IV

The MWD fit is cap stable (with the right charges) on all 5s but the stability is skill dependent and can fall off at very low skill levels. For an Alpha pilot even If we change modules like in the AB fit to meet skill requirements it would still need EG-601 implant to make it work.

Edit: Forgot the drone to get on killmails :D



This does the trick nicely - when I was trying to fly frigate logi people kept pointing me at stuff I needed implants for which was a bit off putting.
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- I personally am swapping my saved fit to this with a Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I in place of the tech 2 cause I'm a penny pincher and a half million saved is a half million earned
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Biwako Acami

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Post 2017.02.17 08:20

Re: Navitas

You are right, for that size cap charge there is no negative impact in downgrading. Updating the fit above.
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Post 2017.05.22 11:39

Re: Navitas

Fits in the OP look ok to me.
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Budda Sereda

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Post 2017.05.24 22:26

Re: Navitas

Unless I miss something, T1 Alpha fit looks very similar to T2. And instead of making fits for all skills level we should focus on use cases. So I'm against posting of T1 version, not even sure if we should put into notes to downgrade T2 prop modules to Compact in case of issues with PWG.

I went ahead and posted current fits from wiki into fleet-up and updated wiki to use fits from fleet-up.

Though few questions:

1. What cap size to be used?

AB fit has Navy Cap Booster 400, while MWD has Cap Booster 25? Please advise. For now I put Cap Booster 25 everywhere.

2. SeBo or ReSeBo?

Why SeBo for mid module? And even more, why ECCM scripts? I have never seen cases when frigate logies were jammed, have you? Usually, they are just killed. Lock time is kind of a concern, so scan resolution script looks more reasonable...
But I think another good option would be to use ReSeBos... ?

I recommend we add into cargo ReSeBo and put note to ask FC if he needs SeBo or ReSeBo and what script.

Concerns?

3. Chargerless fits?

In the topic about Burst (https://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtop ... 81#p862681) White wrote:
White wrote:Navitas is armor tanked so needs the low slots. Bursts don't so may as well stick cap mods on. Same reasoning as the Scythe/Scimitar uses cap power relays in the lows.

I understand, removing DC or membrane compromises tank (-1.5k EHP and around 10% of resist), but ... if this is so bad, why don't we replace chargerless Burst AB fit with nano fit for 10% extra speed? And that Burst is not cap-stable, so moving to chargerness version will make it more stable, and will make it 10% quicker...

Please share your thoughts.
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Post 2017.05.24 23:17

Re: Navitas

To answer your questions:

1. Use the biggest charges you can for logi in these scenarios.

2. SeBo, frig logi will not have time to be re-sebo'ing and can't afford to devote a target slot for targeting another logi to resebo. The script is probably just a placeholder. A clever pilot will switch scripts depending on situation (ECCM when getting jammed, scan res or range when damped). Sometimes even go unscripted.

3. The AB burst is (or should be) cap stable. You also won't really need nanofibers, because you're already faster than nearly all other AB frigates anyway, by quite a decent margin. A Harpy for instance is a whopping 400m/s slower than a burst. Plus it makes it MUCH easier to fly as a ship, without having to mess around with cap boosters.
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Budda Sereda

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Post 2017.05.29 02:23

Re: Navitas

Replaced charges to Navy 400
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Alexander Oromov

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Post 2018.08.15 00:57

Re: Navitas

The current AB fit leans towards solo Navitas. This one gives it a bit more versatility by making it available for tandem Navitas. Basically, you will get the same for 35% less ISK, but you will also get slightly better EHP, increased resists, and shifts the resist profile towards the more common damage profiles that we encounter.

AB Navitas
SPOILER WARNING!
[Navitas, A-AR ✪ | RAR | ✪ +87.0 HP/s ✈ 932m/s | 6.01s ✚ 7'117 + 2.63 EHP | Combat Logistics - Capacitor + Sensor Booster - EHP Focus | Galene]

Damage Control II
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Alumel-Wired Enduring Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution Script
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 200

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Small Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer

Small Anti-Thermal Pump I
Small Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I


Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1


Targeting Range Script x1
Navy Cap Booster 200 x20
Navy Cap Booster 400 x10
ECCM Script x1


The MWD version I came up with has more buffer, slightly better em, thermal, and kinetic resists while opening up an imo slight, but acceptable explosion hole.

MWD Navitas
SPOILER WARNING!
[Navitas, M-AR ✪ | RAR | ✪ +87.0 HP/s ✈ 2'459m/s | 6.01s ✚ 7'313 + 2.30 EHP | Attack Logistics - Capacitor + Sensor Booster - EHP Focus | Galene]

400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Alumel-Wired Enduring Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution Script
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Small Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1


Targeting Range Script x1
Navy Cap Booster 400 x20
ECCM Script x1


PS: I also found this on the web. Think someone got inspired by dual prop exequrors and oneiroses. It's weird on a frigate, but I bet it works. :lol:

Dual Prop Navitas
SPOILER WARNING!
[Navitas, Dual Prop Navitas]

Damage Control II
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

Small Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Small Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Small Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I


Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1


Edit: Updated with K950's suggestion to add meta cap booster.

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