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Titus Tallang

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Post 2016.12.18 21:13

Inquisitor

Current fittings:

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[Inquisitor, AB]
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

1MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II

Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I


Acolyte II x1


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[Inquisitor, MWD]
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Acolyte II x1

Navy Cap Booster 400 x1


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[Inquisitor, Small Wormhole Logi]
Coreli C-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Coreli C-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Coreli C-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Ancillary Current Router II


Hornet EC-300 x1

Navy Cap Booster 400 x1
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Post 2016.12.19 19:07

Re: Inquisitor

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[Inquisitor, Max Alpha]

IFFA Compact Damage Control
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Small Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Small Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Small Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer

Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Can switch the ANPs to ENAMs for omegas
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Post 2016.12.20 12:32

Re: Inquisitor

I think we can safely bin all the original fits. They don't have any rigs, and a deadspace T1 logi frig is a silly idea now that the T2 logi frigs exist.

The AB one can be made cap stable without booster and with T2 reppers, that's a tight fit though:

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[Inquisitor, FD: AB]

IFFA Compact Damage Control
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger

Small Remote Armor Repairer II
Small Remote Armor Repairer II
Small Remote Armor Repairer II

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Post 2016.12.20 12:38

Re: Inquisitor

The MWD one didn't turn out to be quite as silly an idea as I thought it would be, but it does still require 2 fitting rigs. Again a tight fit at All V:

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[Inquisitor, FD: MWD]

IFFA Compact Damage Control
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I


I'd personally say leave this one out, and put the AB and Frozen's Alpaca one in.
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Neonen Enderas (Biomassed 2017.06.23)

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Post 2016.12.22 11:41

Re: Inquisitor

We should add a note about the benefit of DS reppers tho. Because new players can use them and they are in fact quite cheap. At least cheaper than 1 PLEX for T2 logi. ;)
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Post 2016.12.22 14:17

Re: Inquisitor

Yes, Coreli A-Type Small Armor Reppers are only 5m each, and yes they are excellent on Deacons. No they should not be even slightly mentioned in the context of T1 logi. Bad Neonen. Bad.
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Neonen Enderas (Biomassed 2017.06.23)

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Post 2016.12.22 15:03

Re: Inquisitor

But.. but... no seriously, they are 5m each. And? It's still a matter of "I can use them and actually rep SOMETHING" vs. "I can use them and be a floating *insert insult here*".
Yes, 5m is a bit more than average for a newbro.... but come on. They are a legit pick. :(
It's not like you are fitting officer modules on a T1 frig.
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Post 2016.12.22 15:34

Re: Inquisitor

I can't believe I have to provide justification for not putting deadspace reppers on a T1 frigate :

  • You're suggesting 15m ISK of kit on a 500k hull. Even for a 30% increase in reps that's a silly idea. particularly as newbros shouldn't spend that
  • Setting the example of putting deadspace modules on cheap ships is a bad example to newbros with no experience or context. We've all seen the ALOD killmails.
  • I don't want newbros buying up all the A-Types - the price would go up and then I wouldn't be able to put them on my Deacon

Edit: I'm not saying that it's not a good idea (although I think that), I'm saying that it's not a good idea to put up a standard fit for newbros.
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Neonen Enderas (Biomassed 2017.06.23)

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Post 2016.12.23 07:57

Re: Inquisitor

I never said they should be in the standard fit, just have them in the notes or something. But I agree on the price part.
As they are a pricy but valid OPTION. Not a good one but hey.


Then again, we want to make basic fits. Screw it, throw them out. :p
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Post 2016.12.31 17:16

Re: Inquisitor

Alright, next stage time.

  • What would applications for the MWD fit be? When would you prefer it over the AB variant?
  • Do those applications justify including it?
  • What micro-adjustments could you think of to the fits above that would make them a teeny bit better?
  • What are important notes (bullet points) you would include which each of these fits?
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Post 2017.01.13 14:59

Re: Inquisitor

Titus Tallang wrote:Alright, next stage time.

  • What would applications for the MWD fit be? When would you prefer it over the AB variant?
  • Do those applications justify including it?
  • What micro-adjustments could you think of to the fits above that would make them a teeny bit better?
  • What are important notes (bullet points) you would include which each of these fits?
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Post 2017.06.04 23:49

Re: Inquisitor

We do need an MWD fit, somebody please post or later I will pull the one used by Breeze. Possible use: logy for armor tank frigates/destroyers either T1 or T2. For instance supporting Golden Punishers (see Breeze's fleets).
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Post 2017.06.05 00:22

Re: Inquisitor

Lotanis Arkturus wrote:The MWD one didn't turn out to be quite as silly an idea as I thought it would be, but it does still require 2 fitting rigs. Again a tight fit at All V:

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[Inquisitor, FD: MWD]

IFFA Compact Damage Control
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I


I'd personally say leave this one out, and put the AB and Frozen's Alpaca one in.


I believe this one will work better (has 800EHP more):
SPOILER WARNING!
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[Inquisitor, MWD]

Damage Control II
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I


Warrior II x1


Navy Cap Booster 400 x15

I also noticed it is used in armor fleets
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Post 2018.08.14 22:35

Re: Inquisitor

I've tweaked our MWD Inquisitor by replacing the explosive rig with a thermal rig. The reasoning behind this change is that (1) thermal is the most used damage type in the game, (2) thermal is the most heavy hitting damage type in the game, and (3) the current small-sized ship meta favors thermal-dealing fleet comps.

MWD Inquisitor
SPOILER WARNING!
[Inquisitor, M-AR ✪ | RAR | ✪ +87.0 HP/s ✈ 2'281m/s | 6.29s ✚ 8'242 + 2.36 EHP | Attack Logistics - Capacitor Booster - EHP Focus | Anuket]

Damage Control II
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 200

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-Thermal Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1


Navy Cap Booster 200 x17
Navy Cap Booster 400 x10


I've also updated the AB version. I'd personally use the same concept as the MWD version and keep the cap booster.

AB Inquisitor
SPOILER WARNING!
[Inquisitor, A-AR ✪ | RAR | ✪ +87.0 HP/s ✈ 885m/s | 6.29s ✚ 8'261 + 2.36 EHP | Combat Logistics - Capacitor Booster - EHP Focus | Anuket]

Damage Control II
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 200

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Small Anti-Thermal Pump I
Small Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I


Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1


Navy Cap Booster 200 x17
Navy Cap Booster 400 x10


If we want to stick with the passive cap recharge version on the Wiki, I'd suggest to use this iteration, which should be a substantial improvement.

AB Inquisitor - Passive Cap Recharger
SPOILER WARNING!
[Inquisitor, A-AB ✪ | RAR | ✪ +87.0 HP/s ✈ 885m/s | 6.29s ✚ 8'298 + 2.36 EHP | Combat Logistics - Cap Recharger - EHP Focus | Anuket C]

Damage Control II
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1


Edit: Updated with K950's suggestion to use meta cap boosters.
Last edited by Alexander Oromov on 2018.08.15 15:45, edited 2 times in total.
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Post 2018.08.15 14:12

Re: Inquisitor

The thermal vs. explosive argument and swapping resists is a dangerous idea. The problem is if you start patching the primary incoming damage type all the time and leaving a giant explosive hole as these fits propagate the damage meta will change to explosive.

For advanced fleet strategy I can see where swapping to specialized resists can help, but for noob friendly general use fits patching the resist hole is better in my opinion. It exemplifies better the basic fitting concepts and avoids having to have extraneous explanations on more advanced fleet fitting ideas.
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