Passive Targetting modules: Will target ever know it's targetted?

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Passive Targetting modules: Will target ever know it's targetted?

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Hi,

I'm thinking of passive targeting systems specifically for use in pre - targeting potential multibox / ganking pirates at high sec gate camps so that when they start flashing criminal I can start shooting immediately. I don't want to un necessarily tip them off with yellow boxing nor do I want to harass 'innocent' but suspicious pilots with yellow boxing behaviour in high sec.

From experience is anyone able to tell me what it is like to be targeted by a player operated passive targeting system?
Will the target EVER know it's been targeted by a passive module?

Is there a time line during which the targeting is hidden but then becomes a yellow box on the targets GUI?

Is there a sound effect that might warn a targeted pilot that his her ship has been targeted by a passive targeting system?

If one uses a ship scanner in combination with a passive targeting module is there anyway for the targeted / scanned pilot to know they've been scanned?

Thanks.

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If nobody gets back to you with the answers, I'm happy to play test-dummy for you to experiment. I tend to lurk around the HSC/AMC area (at the moment) but my playtime is super-variable, so you'll just have to check if I'm online or not.
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Re: Passive Targetting modules: Will target ever know it's targetted?

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> so that when they start flashing criminal I can start shooting immediately

short answer: no

Passive Targeters have a niche use, as they allow you to use non-aggressive modules (eg cargo or ship scanners) on a target without alerting the target - for instance, in order to check what cargo a ship is carrying and whether it's worth suicide ganking. To use a passive targeter, activate the module, then click on the target you would like to lock.


https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Targetin ... _targeters
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14th cylon wrote: 2022.02.03 00:38 > so that when they start flashing criminal I can start shooting immediately

short answer: no

Passive Targeters have a niche use, as they allow you to use non-aggressive modules (eg cargo or ship scanners) on a target without alerting the target - for instance, in order to check what cargo a ship is carrying and whether it's worth suicide ganking. To use a passive targeter, activate the module, then click on the target you would like to lock.


https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Targetin ... _targeters
This doesn't eliminate the possibility of using the module as explained. The target would be locked up while not a legal target (Which is always possible), and then hostile modules would be activated once the target is a legal target.

Passive targeters can indeed be used to cargo scan, for example, without any overview indication that you were ever locked - but that is not their only use.



When you use a passive targeter, it prevents a yellow box condition from being reported to the target.


If you use a hostile module - which you CAN do - you start red-boxing to the target's overview, breaking the passive element of the module.


Yes, what is proposed, is possible.
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Anidien Dallacort wrote: 2022.02.03 00:50 Yes, what is proposed, is possible.
if you are sure about that, then i stand corrected.
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Thanks all.

Keris Soleil I will happily take you up on your offer when next I'm able to play Eve. LOL due to RL issues that won't be until around July.
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From experience is anyone able to tell me what it is like to be targeted by a player operated passive targeting system?
Will the target EVER know it's been targeted by a passive module?
Nope

Is there a time line during which the targeting is hidden but then becomes a yellow box on the targets GUI?
No
Is there a sound effect that might warn a targeted pilot that his her ship has been targeted by a passive targeting system?
Nope
If one uses a ship scanner in combination with a passive targeting module is there anyway for the targeted / scanned pilot to know they've been scanned?
Yes. there is a faint beam from your ship when the ship scanner is activated and you can hear the click of the ship scanner.
It's like a bubbley clicking sound whenever you get ship or cargo scanned.


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