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Scimitar

Post by Biwako Acami »

Looks like we don't have recent PvP fits for Scimitar.
  • Old Fit MWD
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    [Scimitar, PvP MWD Logi V]
    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Pithum B-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
    
    50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
    Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    
    Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
    Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
    Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
    Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
    
    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    
    
    Hornet EC-300 x4
    Warrior II x5
    
  • Old Fit AB
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    [Scimitar, E-UNI Scimitar - AB]
    Large S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
    Large Murky Compact Remote Shield Booster
    Large S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
    Medium S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
    
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
    
    Damage Control II
    Capacitor Power Relay II
    Capacitor Power Relay II
    Power Diagnostic System II
    
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    
    
    Light Armor Maintenance Bot II x5
    Acolyte II x4
    
    Nanite Repair Paste x75
  • Herocats fit
    (is that still a thing?)
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    [Scimitar, Scimitar - MWD]
    Large S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
    Large S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
    Medium S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
    Medium S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
    
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
    
    Damage Control II
    Power Diagnostic System II
    Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System
    Power Diagnostic System II
    
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    
    
    Bouncer II x1
    Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x4
    
    Nanite Repair Paste x100
  • Incursion Fits
    There were recently updated by incursions Team so I doubt they'll need much attention but feedback is always welcome.
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      [Scimitar, Incursions (minimum fit)]
      Large S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
      Large S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
      Large Remote Shield Booster II
      Large Remote Shield Booster II
      
      Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
      Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
      10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
      Cap Recharger II
      Cap Recharger II
      
      Capacitor Power Relay II
      Capacitor Power Relay II
      Capacitor Power Relay II
      Capacitor Power Relay II
      
      Medium Ancillary Current Router II
      Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
      
      
      Light Shield Maintenance Bot I x1
      Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I x4
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      [Scimitar, Incursions (advanced fit)]
      Large Remote Shield Booster II
      Large Remote Shield Booster II
      Large Remote Shield Booster II
      Large Remote Shield Booster II
      
      Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
      Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
      10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
      Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer
      Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer
      
      Power Diagnostic System II
      Capacitor Power Relay II
      Capacitor Power Relay II
      Capacitor Power Relay II
      
      Medium Ancillary Current Router II
      Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
      
      
      Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x1
      Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x4
      
      Optimal Range Script x3
      Tracking Speed Script x3
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Re: Scimitar

Post by Cassiel Seraphim »

Can confirm that the incursion-related fits are updated, both on the wiki and fleet-up.
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Re: Scimitar

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And while we are at it: Are ancillary remote shield boosters any good (for scimitar).

The other thread

The large ancillary remote shield booster would allow scimitar to repair more in short term but less once the reload hits and then again more if the fleet survives over the 60 second reload. It uses no capacitor (when loaded) so a fit with it would use less capacitor.

At least zkillboard doesn't show many scimitars using it https://zkillboard.com/item/41482/
Just few MWD fits.
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Re: Scimitar

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Remote ASBs are useless for Scimitars. This is because most Scimi fits assume that you only run 4 reps in cases of needing significant burst reps, and are stable enough (with Mindflood, which is mandatory for non-cap-chain logi and most recons) to allow you to run 4 reps for more cycles than you could run the remote ASB.

Herocats are a cheap, fairly expendable fleet concept where you get some wormhole projection with blaster Talos/logi/etc without spending the funds required for HACs/T3Cs/command ships. I don't know how often the Uni is up for whaling, but that's what the fleet concept is for.

The other PvP MWD fit hasn't been updated since approximately 2014, which is a problem. Here is a more correct fit.
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[Scimitar, Scimitar - MWD]

Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive

Large Asymmetric Enduring Remote Shield Booster
Large Asymmetric Enduring Remote Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Bouncer II x1
Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x4


Nanite Repair Paste x100
NB: You should be using Strong Mindflood. You should never have to rep and tank at the same time, so you can leave the two invuls pre-heated, and just move and rep. While doing so, you should have nearly 16min cap life with MWD, both large reps, and one medium running, and be cap stable with just the large reps running.

The AB fit is mostly okay.

The last fit that the wiki should probably have (at least for awareness that this is a thing) is a solo XLASB Scimi, which you would use with a small gang of kitey shield stuff. It requires a 3% CPU implant or downgrading to t2 remote reps.
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[Scimitar, solo xlasb]

Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II
Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System
Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System

50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thukker Large Cap Battery
Sensor Booster II, ECCM Script

Pithum C-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II


Hornet EC-300 x4
Acolyte II x5


Nanite Repair Paste x100
Navy Cap Booster 400 x36
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Re: Scimitar

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The Bouncer on the MWD fit seems situational. Like the AB fit would Acolytes and Hornet ECs or Light Armor Drones work for a general case?
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Re: Scimitar

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In general, you're not bringing the drones in a fleet logi because of your great contributions to the fight. You have the Bouncer so that you can assist it to a random F1 monkey and get on killmails if you like doing that.

In the small gang environment you actually do contribute in ways other than providing reps, so having the Acolytes for hazing tackle and then the armor bots for topping up between engagements is standard.
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Re: Scimitar

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These are some of the ones i came up with.

MWD Buffer:
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[Scimitar, MWD Buffer]

Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Damage Control II

50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Sensor Booster II, ECCM Script

Large S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
Large S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
Medium S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
Medium S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I x4
Light Shield Maintenance Bot I x1


Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x1
Plenty of Buffer, good resistances, EWAR resistance, nice amount of outgoing rep. Aimed at 3 or more logi.

MWD Self-Rep:
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[Scimitar, MWD Self Rep]

Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Explosive Deflection Amplifier II
Sensor Booster II, ECCM Script

Medium Remote Shield Booster II
Medium Remote Shield Booster II
Medium Remote Shield Booster II
Medium Remote Shield Booster II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II


Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x4


Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x1
Navy Cap Booster 400 x36
Still got some decent EHP, plus it's got some reps, EWAR resistance also. This fit is more aimed at 2 or less logi.

AB Buffer:
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Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Damage Control II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Sensor Booster II, ECCM Script

Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Medium Remote Shield Booster II
Medium S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I x4
Light Shield Maintenance Bot I x1


Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x1
Not as fast as the MWD version but just as tanky. More cap stable than the MWD version but not as fast. Aimed at 3 or more logi.

AB Self-Rep:
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Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

10MN Afterburner II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Explosive Deflection Amplifier II
Sensor Booster II, ECCM Script

Medium Remote Shield Booster II
Medium Remote Shield Booster II
Medium Remote Shield Booster II
Medium Remote Shield Booster II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II


Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x4


Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x1
Navy Cap Booster 400 x36
Better EHP than the MWD version as it requires much less cap so can use a tank rig. This fit is more aimed at 2 or less logi.
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