Lachesis

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Budda Sereda

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Post 2018.02.28 06:46

Lachesis

Current shield fit is obsolete, need to review other fits.

ATM, considering this:
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[Lachesis, Shield]

Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
Caldari Navy Warp Disruptor

200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Valkyrie II x5


Spike M x1000
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x1000
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Post 2018.03.02 23:20

Re: Lachesis

Combat recons generally shouldn't fit guns. If you have the cap, throw on some smartbombs for clearing drones.
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Post 2018.03.03 05:36

Re: Lachesis

Agree with Raido on the guns, I don't see any occasion where you'll need the additional 150 dps more than clearing a swarm of drones.

AB version I used for long range BC/BS fleets :

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[Lachesis, ab lach]

Overdrive Injector System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II

Drone Link Augmentor I
Cynosural Field Generator I
Medium EMP Smartbomb II
Medium EMP Smartbomb II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


You can remove the cyno and/or drone link augmentor for a third SB and/or a whoring gun.
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Zeerse Solaris

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Post 2018.03.03 10:36

Re: Lachesis

If the fits are going to include more expensive variants like faction disruptors, shouldn't they have the true sansha/dark blood ones for the 56km point?
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Post 2018.03.03 21:05

Re: Lachesis

Why AB for shield fit? 800m/s ... is so low... What if opponent kites? Again, not criticizing, learning.

And another question about SB type: why EMP? Any specific reason? I guess it does not really matter?

Zeerse Solaris wrote:If the fits are going to include more expensive variants like faction disruptors, shouldn't they have the true sansha/dark blood ones for the 56km point?

The longer range the better, but the price is higher. I would say Lachesis deserves at least Caldari Navy one, and the more pilot can afford to lose the better is for the fleet.

For the Armor variant, we also need improvements, the current one has only 3 modules in low. Is the same logic applicable: Smart Bombs instead of guns. Something like this?
Currently published fit is MWD, keep it? Does an armor fleet need MWD Lachesis? Better to have AB for sig tank, this will also let to use T2 plate.
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[Lachesis, MWD 150mm ArmorBuff]

Damage Control II
1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Explosive Membrane II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Caldari Navy Warp Disruptor
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Phased Muon Scoped Sensor Dampener, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Phased Muon Scoped Sensor Dampener, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script

Medium EMP Smartbomb II
Medium EMP Smartbomb II
[Empty High slot]
Cynosural Field Generator I

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I


Hammerhead II x4


Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x1
Caldari Navy Thorium Charge M x1
Caldari Navy Iron Charge M x1
Nanite Repair Paste x150
Scan Resolution Script x2
Scan Resolution Dampening Script x2
Targeting Range Dampening Script x2


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Post 2018.03.05 10:12

Re: Lachesis

Raido Kudonen wrote:Combat recons generally shouldn't fit guns. If you have the cap, throw on some smartbombs for clearing drones.


Depends what the use is and what ship it is. Small gang setups with combat recons will probably want to be fitting weapons. Rooks can deal some decent damage with RLMLs for instance.
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Post 2018.03.06 12:12

Re: Lachesis

When I used to run small-med sized armour brawling gangs in lowsec I very much enjoyed FCing from this fit (and variants upon it).

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[Lachesis, Brawler]

1600mm Crystalline Carbonide Restrained Plates
1600mm Crystalline Carbonide Restrained Plates
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Warp Scrambler II
Remote Sensor Dampener II
Remote Sensor Dampener II
Remote Sensor Dampener II
Remote Sensor Dampener II
Remote Sensor Dampener II

Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
Hostile Target Acquisition I

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Vespa EC-600 x5


You can simultaneously lock down your target and ruin most if not all of your opponents logistics wing, while having a surprisingly large tank. T2 hulls are a touch more expensive these days but should still do the job if you're rolling Mallers or Thoraxs or something.
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Post 2018.03.06 12:49

Re: Lachesis

For shield skirmish gangs, you have a lot of variability and the Lach pilot should be making decisions before they undock dependant on gang size:

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[Lachesis, Skirmish Support]

Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

50MN Microwarpdrive II
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
EM Ward Field II

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


This is effectively the "base" of the fit you're looking at, swapping Diags to Nanos if your gang is significantly faster than 2k/s. Highs/Drones are entirely situational and dependant on the fleet you are supporting.
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Post 2018.03.06 12:52

Re: Lachesis

Oh, source: https://zkillboard.com/character/639451688/topalltime/

I have got more kills in a Lach than any other, it's one of my favourites.
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Post 2018.04.10 01:11

Re: Lachesis

Published Apothne's MWD Shield Kiter and AB Armor Brawler. I guess MWD Armor possible only by sacrificing tank yet won't give any significant advantage so that will be 2 fits only.

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