Retribution

2017.06.17 09:44 by White 0rchid

Standard armor AF fleet. With an MWD you don't get much room to do other stuff with these. You can change to an AB and then fit T2 scram and plate if it's a slow fleet.

SPOILER WARNING!: [Retribution, Armor AF Fleet] Heat Sink II Damage Control II True Sansha Adaptive Nano Plating II True Sansha Adaptive Nano Plating II 200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S [Empty High slot] Small Trimark Armor Pump II Small Trimark Armor Pump II

There are many other 'solo' fits, but you are always hampered by your 2 mids, same as the wolf. The kiting fit doesn't work quite as well on an retri as it does on a wolf either. This one can KINDA work, but it's not that great tbh. You have immense tank and can project your damage fairly far. Many people can run away from you though.

SPOILER WARNING!: [Retribution, Pulse Buffer + Rep] Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II True Sansha Adaptive Nano Plating II 200mm Steel Plates II 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S [Empty High slot] Small Trimark Armor Pump II Small Trimark Armor Pump II

2017.11.09 15:39 by Budda Sereda

Posted AF.

For "solo" I like this one more:

SPOILER WARNING!

  Code:
[Retribution, E-UNI Retribution - Pulse Wiki(2)]

IFFA Compact Damage Control
200mm Steel Plates II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Armor Thermal Hardener II

5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II

Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu

Small Anti-EM Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Scorch S x4
Conflagration S x4
Nanite Repair Paste x50

2018.04.15 05:33 by Budda Sereda

Let's see if better fits can be made with ADC? Please post suggestions.

2018.04.16 00:33 by Raido Kudonen

The main solo/small gang Retribution fit these days takes advantage of the capacitor/speed buffs instead of the ADC. The properly blingy version, which is used with links and usually a set of Snakes, is here. Downgrading is easy - AAR, non-bling long point, restrained MWD.

MWD Retributions have become increasingly popular nullsec ships recently, and are used with Magi and Deacons.

SPOILER WARNING!: [Retribution, nullsec raiding] 400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Assault Damage Control II Heat Sink II Adaptive Nano Plating II Adaptive Nano Plating II 5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler Dual Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S [Empty High slot] Dual Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Anti-Thermal Pump II Small Trimark Armor Pump II Gleam S x4 Aurora S x4 Imperial Navy Xray S x4 Imperial Navy Standard S x4 Nanite Repair Paste x100

Finally, we like using brawly armor AFs (Retrib/Enyo/Wolf) in lowsec, here's the Retribution fit:

SPOILER WARNING!: [Retribution, pseudo-snatch (lowsec)] 400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Assault Damage Control II Corpii A-Type Thermal Plating Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating Heat Sink II 1MN Afterburner II Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S [Empty High slot] Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Small Ancillary Current Router II Small Trimark Armor Pump II Imperial Navy Multifrequency S x4 Imperial Navy Gamma S x4 Imperial Navy Xray S x4 Imperial Navy Standard S x4 Nanite Repair Paste x100

2018.04.18 19:29 by Xenopha Cadelanne

The most common solo/small gang Retribution has become this:

SPOILER WARNING!: [Retribution, Retribution - Beam Dual HS Dual Nano] Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Heat Sink II Extruded Compact Heat Sink 5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Initiated Compact Warp Disruptor Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet S [Empty High slot] Small Energy Collision Accelerator I Small Energy Metastasis Adjuster II

This fit has very good dps, reasonable speed and agility, and decent tank. Basically a Slicer but better.

The an example of a very blingy but extremely survivable Retribution:

SPOILER WARNING!: [Retribution, Retribution - Absurdly Good Bling] Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer True Sansha Heat Sink Heat Sink II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Coreli A-Type 5MN Microwarpdrive Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray S [Empty High slot] Small Energy Locus Coordinator II Small Energy Metastasis Adjuster II

When used with HG Snakes, these can remain on field even with the DPS of several carriers against them. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6-Cks0M0kA for confirmation)

2018.05.04 06:04 by Budda Sereda

Agree with double-nano fit, though I would use fit with ADC: extra 15s can help a lot. Yes, you lose 18% DPS, but depending on a doctrine and type of the fleet it is a good trade-off.

See more on this fit in AAR on fleet where I've met it: https://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtop ... 6&t=109530 and bling version of the fit: https://zkillboard.com/kill/69678523/

2018.05.04 07:56 by Biwako Acami

ADC isn't a viable option for the double Nano fit. It doesn't match the play style.

2018.05.04 08:01 by Kora K

Biwako Acami wrote:ADC isn't a viable option for the double Nano fit. It doesn't match the play style.

I agree with Biwako on this one. If you have to use the SAAR + ADCU, you're already screwed. You could even remove both modules for even more speed/agility and mind your piloting.

2018.05.13 20:53 by Raido Kudonen

Piloting is not enough in most small gang scenarios. The SAAR (or blingy SAR) plays a crucial role when you're holding tackle for a gang, which is the most common use case for these Retributions lately.

(If you're solo, the SAAR is even more important - you don't want to give up a kill because you're low. Piloting only gets you the ability to successfully disengage from a fight, not to get a kill when you don't do enough DPS to kill a bad guy before your zero-tanked ship dies from weapons with better application than you can mitigate.)

2018.05.29 04:06 by Budda Sereda

Updated currently published:

Brawly Armor fit (replaced DC by ADC):

SPOILER WARNING!: [Retribution, MWD Pulse - Brawly Armor AF Fleet] Heat Sink II Assault Damage Control II 200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Adaptive Nano Plating II Adaptive Nano Plating II 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S [Empty High slot] Small Trimark Armor Pump II Small Trimark Armor Pump II Scorch S x4 Imperial Navy Multifrequency S x4

Small Gang/Solo Brawler fit:

SPOILER WARNING!: [Retribution, MWD Pulse SAAR+Buff - Solo/Small Gang] Armor Thermal Hardener II Adaptive Nano Plating II Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste 200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates EFFA Compact Assault Damage Control Warp Scrambler II 5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Anti-EM Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Scorch S x4 Conflagration S x4 Nanite Repair Paste x50

Posted:

Nano fit, though slightly different from the proposed one:

SPOILER WARNING!: [Retribution, MWD Beam SAAR - 2nano, locus rigs] Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Initiated Compact Warp Disruptor Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma S [Empty High slot] Small Energy Locus Coordinator II Small Energy Locus Coordinator II

It has higher DPS at the same range by allowing usage of shorter range ammo.

Armor Kiting Fleet (Raido's nul-sec roam):

SPOILER WARNING!: [Retribution, MWD Beam ArmorBuffer - Kiting Armor Fleet] 400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Assault Damage Control II Heat Sink II Adaptive Nano Plating II Adaptive Nano Plating II 5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler Dual Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S [Empty High slot] Small Anti-Thermal Pump II Small Trimark Armor Pump II Gleam S x4 Aurora S x4 Imperial Navy Xray S x4 Imperial Navy Standard S x4 Nanite Repair Paste x100

And before posting low-sec Brawly Fleet fit I'd like to ask: how that should work? With AB and Pulse you can pretty much only engage on gates or on plexes, if opponents does not 'wait' for you or kite - you will lose. For a year I saw none AB brawly fits... If it is AB than it is long range.
Please help understanding how to fly this Raido.
Thanks!

2018.06.01 04:56 by Budda Sereda

Just realized, that Retribution nano fit has lock range (50km) lesser than aurora optimal (62.8km). With that I'd replace 1 Locus with Ion Field Projector. This will bring lock range up to 65km and reduces optimal down to 53.5km.

Does this make sense? Or better fit DPS rig?

2018.06.04 17:05 by Raido Kudonen

Doesn't really matter, the nano Retribution is usually meant to engage things within its point range. If you're in a small gang environment where you might want to use Aurora optimal, it's not hard to bring info links to fill that gap.

As for the questions about lowsec brawling, I've explained before that our lowsec brawling AFs involve a small number of boosting/booshing command destroyers, so we don't really worry about being kited. If we don't like our engagement we just boosh out; if we think we can boosh into someone, we also have that option.

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