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Tristan

Posted: 2017.02.12 14:34
by Titus Tallang
Current fittings:
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[Tristan, Hyperkitten V2]

Warp Disruptor II
Medium Shield Extender II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


Acolyte II x5
Warrior II x3

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[Tristan, Oversize AB Kiting]

Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I


Acolyte II x5
Warrior II x3

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[Tristan, Solo Armor Brawl]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
1MN Afterburner II

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x8

Nanite Repair Paste x1
Void S x1

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[Tristan, Solo HullTanked SAAR]
Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Small Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Faint Warp Disruptor I

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I


Hobgoblin II x5

Nanite Repair Paste x1
Antimatter Charge S x1

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[Tristan, Solo Neut Tristan]
Small Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
Small Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
Small Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer

Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Warp Scrambler II
1MN Afterburner II

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


Hobgoblin II x8

Nanite Repair Paste x32
Navy Cap Booster 400 x12

Re: Tristan

Posted: 2017.02.13 14:11
by Dornath Megara
Solo Neut Tristan:
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[Tristan, Solo Neut Tristan]

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Warp Scrambler II
1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

Small Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
Small Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
[Empty High slot]

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I


Hobgoblin II x5


Nanite Repair Paste x32
Navy Cap Booster 400 x12
I removed one neut which allowed me to add an extra bulkhead for tank and to have the ship being cap stable, while this should lose a bit of competitiveness against Gallente ships, gains in competitiveness with Amarr (which would be cap drained anyway) and Minmatar / Caldari where the cap is not much of an issue, so the extra tank would help.


Hyperkitten V2: It's still a solid kiting fit, my only concern is the short cap life, might be worth considering moving to enduring MWD + 1% CPU implant?

The oversized AB fit seems interesting but I'm not sure if it's better than the hyperkitten in any way, other than for the reduce sig, not a very good tank though...I would have to take it for a spin to provide any constructive feedback on this.

Solo Armor Brawl:
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[Tristan, Solo Armor Brawl]

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[Empty High slot]

Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x5


Void S x1
Nanite Repair Paste x1
I changed the AB to a compact one and upgraded the scram to a scoped version, the extra 750 come really handy when trying to slingshot kiters.

I'll try the other fits whenever possible and try to add some more comments.

Re: Tristan

Posted: 2017.02.16 12:07
by Kaos Crendraven
Yay! Ships I can fly! Gonna focus on the Alpha/newplayer stuff cause write what you know.

I'm pretty sure this is "minute one" flyable - PvP small gang, kitting Tristan, that you might use or see on Noobs on Patrol, cheap enough for most at about 1.2 million.
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[Tristan, Newbro Kiting]
200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Drone Damage Amplifier I
Damage Control I

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Initiated Compact Warp Disruptor
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier

125mm Prototype Gauss Gun
125mm Prototype Gauss Gun




Hornet I x8

Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S x400
Federation Navy Iron Charge S x400

Similar but AB fit brawler
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[Tristan, Newbro Brawl]
200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Drone Damage Amplifier I
Damage Control I

1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
J5 Enduring Warp Disruptor
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier

Light Electron Blaster I
Light Electron Blaster I




Hornet I x8

Federation Navy Iron Charge S x400
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S x400
Left the rigs off as new players can fit them, but they get 100% of the drawback - a Small Anti-Explosive Pump I is almost certainly worth it but I'm less sure on slotting more armor rigs otherwise as they drive the price up fast and increase survive-ability an 'ok' amount, but quickly reach the cost of another ship to fly. I'm also not 100% on the thoughts on what drones to fly "by default"

Re: Tristan

Posted: 2017.02.16 16:46
by Biwako Acami
  • Solo PVP - Advanced MWD Kiting
    Theres a fit that seems to be really popular in FW space now. Seeing all the top Tristan pilots (according to zkillboard) sporting it. This should probably replace the 10mn AB Kiting fit.

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    [Tristan, Solo PVP - Advanced MWD Kiting]
    
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Type-D Restrained Nanofiber Structure
    
    5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
    Medium Shield Extender II
    Warp Disruptor II
    
    [Empty High slot]
    [Empty High slot]
    [Empty High slot]
    
    Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Small Core Defense Field Extender I
    Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
    
    
    Acolyte II x4
    Warrior II x4
    
    The rigs plug the EM hole, add buffer and increase speed. Variations generally revolve around either swaping for more buffer or more speed rigs.
  • Solo PVP - Advanced Neut
    Regarding the Neut Fit I'm going to have to put my vote in for Kelon's fit.

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    [Tristan, Solo PVP - Advanced Neut]
    
    Damage Control II
    Overdrive Injector System II
    Reinforced Bulkheads II
    
    1MN Afterburner II
    Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
    Initiated Compact Warp Scrambler
    
    Small Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
    Small Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
    Small Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
    
    Small Transverse Bulkhead I
    Small Transverse Bulkhead I
    Small Transverse Bulkhead I
    
    
    Acolyte II x3
    Hobgoblin II x5
    

Re: Tristan

Posted: 2017.05.21 23:24
by White 0rchid
I personally go EM and Thermal rigs on the kiting tristan.
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[Tristan, Hyperkitten]

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Warp Disruptor II
Medium Shield Extender II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


Acolyte II x5
Warrior II x3
You can also go high dps in your face fit
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[Tristan, Solo Armor Brawl]

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
1MN Afterburner II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[Empty High slot]

Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x3
Can also throw in a fleet fit
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[Tristan, Armor Fleet]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
200mm Steel Plates II
IFFA Compact Damage Control

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[Empty High slot]

Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Hobgoblin II x5

Re: Tristan

Posted: 2017.06.03 15:50
by Eshod
White 0rchid wrote:I personally go EM and Thermal rigs on the kiting tristan.
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[Tristan, Hyperkitten]

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Warp Disruptor II
Medium Shield Extender II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


Acolyte II x5
Warrior II x3
You can also go high dps in your face fit
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[Tristan, Solo Armor Brawl]

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
1MN Afterburner II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[Empty High slot]

Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x3
Per the usual with Orchid's posts, the two above are what I'd consider the two primary fits currently utilized for the Tristan.

However, have we come to a conclusion on the SAAR's pricing and whether or not we should include these in standard fittings (with cheap hulls such as this)? I'm used to the standard that the hull cost should be about ~50% of the total cost of the fitting, and personally would run the above armor brawl fit without question, but I believe the SAAR's alone are running 5-7mil these days, which is ~10-14x the cost of the hull.

Even though I think most of us here wouldn't even look at the cost if we bulk bought this fitting, I'm not sure new E-UNI members that are running ships like the Tristan would be willing to cash out for a T1 frigate fit at this price.

Re: Tristan

Posted: 2017.06.05 01:29
by Budda Sereda
Could somebody please summarize what should be published with a brief explanation on fits recommended?

Re: Tristan

Posted: 2017.06.11 20:50
by Budda Sereda
Publisher Hyperkitten, Armor Brawl, and Blukhead Neut version.

Oversized AB does look good (as per comment and my opinion), another hull tanked version needs more CPU. I believe 3 posted fits are a good starting point for everybody to learn flying tristans.