Magnate

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Biwako Acami
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Re: Magnate

Post by Biwako Acami »

Assuming we are focusing on the purpose, the fit below will work with:
  • Shield Upgrades V
  • Power Grid Management V
  • Tactical Shield Manipulation IV

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[Magnate, Cargonate]

Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Improved Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Small Cargohold Optimization II
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Cargohold Optimization II
We sacrifice rig with least impact on cargo hold to get the extra push needed for the medium shield extender. With minimum skills we get 2.53k EHP on the EM resistance hole whereas with all 5s we get 3.01k. We still retain a max cargo hold of 1.52k m3 (reduced by 228.33 m3).

I chose to retain the MWD because a ship without covops cloak and with penalties to movement speed would not be able to get much from a cloak-AB trick.
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Lotanis Arkturus
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Re: Magnate

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This is the alternate version for comparison:

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[Magnate, Cargo]

Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Shield Extender II
5MN Microwarpdrive II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Improved Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Small Cargohold Optimization I
Small Cargohold Optimization I
Small Cargohold Optimization I
More tank (4k) and much easier fitting. But only 1,261k cargo.
Given tank isn't important here (you're relying on the MWD cloak trick), I'd go with Biwako's, but add a note:
Tank is not of great importance here. Safety should be derived from using the the MWD cloak trick. Ensure you're familiar with it before travelling gate to gate.

If fitting is too tight, the Ancillary Current router can be replaced with a Cargohold Optimisation, and a Micro Auxiliary Power Core can be used in place of one of the Expanded Cargoholds.

It can also be helpful to carry a set of Warp Core Stabiliisers so that when the full cargohold capacity isn't needed, swapped in instead of EC2s for additional safety.
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Biwako Acami
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Re: Magnate

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But only 1,261k cargo.
There is enough calibration room to convert 2 rigs to T2 giving 1372.94 m3.
More tank (4k) and much easier fitting.
Fitting need is fulfilled by the requirements of the modules:
  • Shield Upgrades IV
  • Tactical Shield Manipulation IV
  • High Speed Maneuvering III (for T2 MWD)
At bare minimum this puts the EM resistence hole at 2.81k and all 5s takes it to 3.37k EHP. The T2 MWD doesn't change capacitor life though, which is a shame.

I think your fit is better for the wiki because of the better EHP, being easier to fit and for being slightly faster
Cold: 1923 m/s OH: 2749 m/s vs Cold: 1810 m/s OH: 2586 m/s

Edit: We can add the note about increasing capacity to 1.5k at the cost of EHP. I'm not sure if there is any item for which we want to hit a cargo capacity threshold. The largest thing I've had to carry around was a command center and the fit I linked allows storing 3 (500 m3 each) but that is a niche requirement.
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Re: Magnate

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After looking at the fits on Wiki I realized we could do a couple of improvements
  • Magnate: Exploration - Advanced
    5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive doesn't really do much for us here.

    Switch 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
    • for 5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive for slightly reduced sig bloom
    • for 5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive for being able to idle the MWD 2m+ while hacking a can
  • Magnate: Fleet PvP - Alpha Combat Prober
    • Missed a few things:
      • T1 drones can be added to the mix. I missed that in my fit.
      • I would throw in a total of 16x Combat Scanner Probes
    • Notes:
      • Swap Scan Acquisition Array I for Scan Rangefinding Array I for more scan strength
      • Sister's Expanded Probe Launcher can be used for additional scan strength but is an expensive module for hero/suicide tackle
      • To avoid jumping into the fray take a command position in fleet, warp squad/fleet to the signature scanned down and then stop your own ship
      • Switch one rig to Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade II and replace the other with Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II to keep similar scan strength and increase warp speed to reach the target faster (+1.25 AU/s)
Update: Added note about warp speed rigs.
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Re: Magnate

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Changes made.

PS: You can punt people by just being in command and flagging yourself exempt from fleet warp, then warping. No need to rely on stopping ship.
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