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What to do with my assets from 2013?

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I just returned from a looong hiatus, didn't know much then, know less now, and am trying to figure out what to do with items that I accumulated from market investment.

I have about 1.5b in goods and about the same amount in cash. Most of the goods are in lowsec 13 jumps from Jita and the rest for moved to a place that seems to be the island of lost toys for when your base get taken over (in confused about this).

Should I :
* have nearby goods contract hauled to Jita
* have them hauled to wherever i move to
* sell them cheap where they are
* jump through hoops to get my nullsec goods back

I'm assuming that I'm going to move to the High Sec Campus because I don't feel comfortable with the other campuses yet.

I welcome any and all feedback and advice!

Thanks,
-Professor Wu
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Re: What to do with my assets from 2013?

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Imo your strategy will depend on what exactly we're talking about, and perhaps even more on what you enjoy doing in the game or are planning on getting into. Can you give some more info (just broad estimates, just to get a general sense) regarding what proportion of your assets (isk-wise and volume-wise) are
  • fitted ships that you plan on using again,
  • fitted ships that you are unlikely to use again,
  • repackaged or repackageable hulls,
  • modules (incl. ammo, drones, etc.),
  • loot, raw materials, and other goods for the market?
For nullsec, if you don't want to transport or contract haul your items, you have Asset Safety as an option, which would transfer these items to the nearest lowsec system, with some cost and time delay associated with it. You can activate the transfer from anywhere IF the items are in a player-owned structure; if they are in an NPC station, you would have to manually transfer the items to such a structure, ideally of course in the same system (works even if you don't have docking access to the structure).

If you're then based at one of the campuses, for any new ships that you plan on buying, you can use the free Uni Hauling Service to bring stuff in from Jita, if you like. And for loot, each campus has a buyback/lootsheet system that saves you having to haul the items yourself.
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Re: What to do with my assets from 2013?

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Arkady,

Thanks for the in-depth reply. The questions you ask are helping me to think more clearly about what I need to decide next. I think that I'm putting the cart before the horse.

-Fitted ships that you plan on using again
The only fitted ship that I plan to use anytime soon is a 7m ISK Corax. So that's not going to factor in much to my plans.

-Fitted ships that you are unlikely to use again
None

-Repackaged or repackageable hulls
90 Rifters in lowsec and a few misc. hulls

-Modules (incl. ammo, drones, etc.),
This is where most of the value of my assets lies. I was personally marshalling doctrine modules for a war my corp was in. Some of this was blown up and is in Asset Safety Wrap about 75 jumps from Jita (where I am currently).

I can go into more detail, but most of it is T1 Fittings and ammunition.

Questions that I am sorting for myself:
* Which campus do I want to make my new home in? (Most likely High Sec Campus)
* What activities do I want to focus on in the near future? (Most likely Exploration, learning Logistics, and Abyssal Space to get comfortable with flying a ship)

Questions that I hope Corp folks can help me answer:
* Are these items useful enough at a campus to other folks that I should ship them to the campus instead of selling them or hauling them to Jita?
* Is there any role that is in particular demand inside the Corp?

Thanks again Arkady! This was extremely helpful.
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Re: What to do with my assets from 2013?

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Happy to have provided some sparks for thought! Let me post some more ideas/questions in response to your answer:
  • The modules that you have, are they of the sort that would be useful in a corp like Eve Uni? We have people with a variety of playstyles and experience in game, but as a whole the Uni focuses on newer players. So, not so much demand for capital equipment, for example. :D At each campus, there are definitely Uni people putting up (public) sell orders for a variety of items, but I'd imagine traded volumes vary hugely between modules. Ammo should be in constant demand, however.
  • The campus headquarters stock a selection of modules for anybody to use, and you're welcome to donate any items you wish to the Uni, but putting up market orders is perfectly fine, especially with what might be quite some volumes that you'll be bringing in. We don't have an internal market as such, but #uni-market-and-industry is available on Discord for private exchanges between members, which might be the best option for expensive items.
  • A different approach might be to set up market orders in e.g. Stacmon, which has a functioning secondary market where you'll actually be able to get good prices for most items. (Stacmon specifically since the Uni will be consolidating there before long, in case you haven't read the announcement yet, and you might decide to be based out of there in the future also and do some active trading, who knows!)
  • Your items in asset safety, are they in fact located in lowsec now? (I don't know if asset safety worked differently in the past.) If so, you might ask in the #uni-hauling channel on Discord if somebody is willing to collect these for you and at what price. The m3 volume would come into play here. Alternatives would be Black Frog or PushX hauling services, but they tend to be fairly expensive.
  • If your asset safety wrap is still in a player-owned structure in nullsec, you can try manually putting it into asset safety again - I have no idea if this works game-mechanics wise, being wrapped, but it has to one way or another, since how would you get access to your items otherwise if you don't have docking rights. Any step you can take to get your items closer to empire space and out of sov null (if they are in fact in sov null) would probably be an advantage.
  • The Rifters are IMO a clearer case: big volume, little isk, hardly worth hauling around. I'd check to see if there is a local demand for them; maybe you're close to a lowsec trade hub. (Tends to be the entry points from nullsec.) As for the rest, you can decide to gather these up over time or just leave them - many players have assets strewn all over New Eden, like a trail documenting past activity.
HSC is definitely a good base if you're getting back into the game. You can do exploration into any kind of space from there, including low/null/wormhole, abyssal runs of course too. PvP fleets form up at a variety of places, but not too far from each other, and with ships from the called-for doctrine usually on contract, a quick trip in a shuttle/ceptor to the form-up system is all it takes.

As for "roles" within the Uni: The best way to both get the most out of the Uni for yourself and contribute to everybody else's good experiences is a) play the game :D, b) be in the campus standing fleet and in Mumble voice-chat whenever you can, c) interact with people in Discord and on the Forum, and d) if you feel up for it, start to organise your own events/fleets/etc. within the corp. Specialisation in certain areas you can do as you go along, there are opportunities to get really good at PvE combat (including in fleets), mining, industry, trading, FCing, you name it... - and if you feel like doing something more at some point, you can apply to become staff and solidify your involvement with the Uni, but that's certainly not a requirement. There isn't really any particular area that's specifically "in demand" - the Uni is big enough to have most areas pretty well covered, luckily, and has some really dedicated volunteers running the behind-the-scenes. Just go out, explore the game anew, and see how the Uni fits with what you're doing and vice versa... :D
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