[Structure Defence] T22 Azbel and Tatara
Posted: 2018.06.13 01:49
TL:DR: Cryptic and Greagan have decided that the structures cannot be defended. We flew too close to the sun. Therefore the timer for the Hull on the Tatara is 2018.06.18 23:57:55 the Azbel's Hull timer is 2018.06.21 23:53:29. Why is this important? because if these structures survive the reinforcement timers we will give them away to the Corp with the most Shadow Cartel kills in Syndicate within the 24 hours preceding these timers until they come out of reinforcement. Is this a scam? well you now know we can't defend them, so if we don't turn them over have fun blowing them up for the juicy kill mail. I would like to see E-UNI's continual usage of these structures, but once they are yours, they are yours. Shadow Cartel is disqualified from any attempt to win these structures.
Prelude
A long time ago CCP created moon mining. Greagan and I, along with the support of many had a moon mining Extravaganza, the NSC was hoping with UNI members. This looked like something to get involved with. We are both AMC officers and without any care of being charged with Dereliction of duty we moved to the NSC. We found that the structures there were haphazardly setup. If someone wanted to do something with a structure they bonus-ed it for their tasks. As non-structure owners we were moving BPOs from one place for research to another for copying. Manufacturing was spread out as well. Some Athanors offered reprocessing and others were simply there to pull up moon chunks.
It was at this time that I visited Grindstone with an alt. I quickly fell in love with the simplicity of the structure setup out there. We were looking to move Encrypted Industries somewhere and We decided on T22, after the Bourbon creek affair. We had a Raitaru quickly built from Grindstone copies and set to work on the Tatara. The Azbel was from an earlier project near the AMC and was redeployed. The plan was simple:
1 Raitaru rigged for T1 invention
1 Azbel Rigged for T1 ME/TE and Blue print copying
1 Sotiyo Rigged for T1 Ship manufacturing, Equipment and Consumables, and Structure and Components
1 Tatara Rigged for T1 Reprocessing and T1 reactions.
We built 3 of the structures, The Raitaru was rigged, the Azbel was only rigged for Blueprint copying and the Tatara was rigged as well. The Sotiyo was under the resource gathering part of the plan. This setup would allow anyone doing industry at the NSC to do so without worrying about what was rigged for what. or where the best place was. or needing to setup their own facility for exactly what they wanted to do. This was a broad umbrella that covered everything. Did we dream to big? yes we did.
Shadow Cartel Attacks
I got pinged 2 days ago that the Tatara was under attack. Joy oh joy. I signed on my structure defender of all that is good and started shooting. I successfully killed my own fighters. Definitely need to learn how to use these things before I try to use them. lesson learned. Thank you for informing me in local that I was doing it wrong.
Moving along 12 hours later they reinforced the Azbel. Greagan had the opportunity to get the notice that this had happened. We were timezone tanked here so what can you do? we watched it burn.
Armor timers
I wasn't going to be online for this timer. The attack started on the Tatara and I continued to work at my job. The structure hit half armor and I could feel the wind in my hair as I drove towards home, windows down on a nice sunny day. The Tatara was reinforced and they started on the Azbel, I ate dinner with the family, Greagan mounted a defense. Things were shot at and structures were reinforced.
Things I learned
1. Don't anchor what you can't afford to lose. To everyone that helped build these structures I thank you for believing in an industrialist's vision.
2. Learn to actually perform a structure defense. SISI exists for a reason
3. Have a plan to defend your stuff, because no one else will do that for you.
4. Build the defense stuff before the structures.
5. Learn PVP first so that you can lead your own defense
The Hull timers
We've decided that even if we were able to mount a full scale successful defense of our structures that it would be better to offload them. Therefore, if you want them you can try to win them from us. How? well first off they have to come out of reinforcement, can't transfer them if they die. Secondly. if multiple groups fight for us how do we determine who to give it to? Well kill mails. For Every Shadow Cartel kill mail in T22-QI, the corp with the most damage will get a point. Corp with the most points when the structures come out of reinforcement gets the structures, since there are separate timers for the Tatara and Azbel they will be separately awarded. We will be attempting our own defense fleet since the timers are now when I'm online, and I would like to try a Doctrine of Blown up stuff for the high annoyance level I suspect this will cause. Hope to see Atomsk with his doctrine fits. Note: I doubt there will be SRP for these but it should be an excellent Troll fit.
Also if you don't wish to help with the defense because this sounds defeatist, thats ok. There is plenty of content in new eden and I wish you all the best in anything you do.
Finally Mandatory Eve fire sale post:
https://evepraisal.com/a/i52t4 90% Jita Buy price is all I ask.
In everything you do Fly Safe and Anchor Dangerously.
Shadow Cartel have shined the Beacon of Knowledge on my poorly laid plans, I thank you for showing me the errors of my ways.
Prelude
A long time ago CCP created moon mining. Greagan and I, along with the support of many had a moon mining Extravaganza, the NSC was hoping with UNI members. This looked like something to get involved with. We are both AMC officers and without any care of being charged with Dereliction of duty we moved to the NSC. We found that the structures there were haphazardly setup. If someone wanted to do something with a structure they bonus-ed it for their tasks. As non-structure owners we were moving BPOs from one place for research to another for copying. Manufacturing was spread out as well. Some Athanors offered reprocessing and others were simply there to pull up moon chunks.
It was at this time that I visited Grindstone with an alt. I quickly fell in love with the simplicity of the structure setup out there. We were looking to move Encrypted Industries somewhere and We decided on T22, after the Bourbon creek affair. We had a Raitaru quickly built from Grindstone copies and set to work on the Tatara. The Azbel was from an earlier project near the AMC and was redeployed. The plan was simple:
1 Raitaru rigged for T1 invention
1 Azbel Rigged for T1 ME/TE and Blue print copying
1 Sotiyo Rigged for T1 Ship manufacturing, Equipment and Consumables, and Structure and Components
1 Tatara Rigged for T1 Reprocessing and T1 reactions.
We built 3 of the structures, The Raitaru was rigged, the Azbel was only rigged for Blueprint copying and the Tatara was rigged as well. The Sotiyo was under the resource gathering part of the plan. This setup would allow anyone doing industry at the NSC to do so without worrying about what was rigged for what. or where the best place was. or needing to setup their own facility for exactly what they wanted to do. This was a broad umbrella that covered everything. Did we dream to big? yes we did.
Shadow Cartel Attacks
I got pinged 2 days ago that the Tatara was under attack. Joy oh joy. I signed on my structure defender of all that is good and started shooting. I successfully killed my own fighters. Definitely need to learn how to use these things before I try to use them. lesson learned. Thank you for informing me in local that I was doing it wrong.
Moving along 12 hours later they reinforced the Azbel. Greagan had the opportunity to get the notice that this had happened. We were timezone tanked here so what can you do? we watched it burn.
Armor timers
I wasn't going to be online for this timer. The attack started on the Tatara and I continued to work at my job. The structure hit half armor and I could feel the wind in my hair as I drove towards home, windows down on a nice sunny day. The Tatara was reinforced and they started on the Azbel, I ate dinner with the family, Greagan mounted a defense. Things were shot at and structures were reinforced.
Things I learned
1. Don't anchor what you can't afford to lose. To everyone that helped build these structures I thank you for believing in an industrialist's vision.
2. Learn to actually perform a structure defense. SISI exists for a reason
3. Have a plan to defend your stuff, because no one else will do that for you.
4. Build the defense stuff before the structures.
5. Learn PVP first so that you can lead your own defense
The Hull timers
We've decided that even if we were able to mount a full scale successful defense of our structures that it would be better to offload them. Therefore, if you want them you can try to win them from us. How? well first off they have to come out of reinforcement, can't transfer them if they die. Secondly. if multiple groups fight for us how do we determine who to give it to? Well kill mails. For Every Shadow Cartel kill mail in T22-QI, the corp with the most damage will get a point. Corp with the most points when the structures come out of reinforcement gets the structures, since there are separate timers for the Tatara and Azbel they will be separately awarded. We will be attempting our own defense fleet since the timers are now when I'm online, and I would like to try a Doctrine of Blown up stuff for the high annoyance level I suspect this will cause. Hope to see Atomsk with his doctrine fits. Note: I doubt there will be SRP for these but it should be an excellent Troll fit.
Also if you don't wish to help with the defense because this sounds defeatist, thats ok. There is plenty of content in new eden and I wish you all the best in anything you do.
Finally Mandatory Eve fire sale post:
https://evepraisal.com/a/i52t4 90% Jita Buy price is all I ask.
In everything you do Fly Safe and Anchor Dangerously.
Shadow Cartel have shined the Beacon of Knowledge on my poorly laid plans, I thank you for showing me the errors of my ways.