[LSC] Glen's Reports for Kelon's May Competition

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[LSC] Glen's Reports for Kelon's May Competition

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This will be where Glen posts his AARs for the May Competion announced in this thread:
https://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtop ... 4&t=104384

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OK, my first AAR will be for a Dual Web breacher I have 9 of. This is a scram-kite king.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/61997005/ - This Exuctioner slid into me. The tank on the breacher is very nice, I didn't even get to 80% armor.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/61997697/ - Hot Breacher on Breacher action! He was dual MASB. Once he hit the reload i finished him, but it took a while because i had scourge loaded I think... Aaaand, my missiles reloaded as he had like 10% hull left. Oh noes! Will they come back online before his MASBs cycle? Luckily the breacher also has 2 drones, so they finished him before the question could be answered :)

https://zkillboard.com/kill/61998648/ - Dual MASB Battle Heron! He focused on my drones for some reason, then I paused to reload from Scourge to Mjolinr for his shield tank. I think that he stopped his MASB while i did that, but then forgot to turn them back on when I resumed firing. He melted very quickly after that.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/61998811/ - There was intel that this comet was blaster. What better target for a scram-kiter? He was at zero as I landed inside the plex, and I had my AB pre-overheated. As I burned out I took tremendous damage, but then less as I got to 5k, but I was at about 50% armor. At 6k, then 7k, the damage abated, so I manually turned my ship into an orbit to maintain the kite at about 7.5k. I *think* at this point he switched to null, because BAM, in 2 hots I was in my pod :)

For the comet encounter the only thing I would do different is just keep burning away, maybe start to manually adjust my speed? I'm not 100% sure that there's a better outcome for that fight... Well, 1 better outcome: RUN AWAY!

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Thats my anti-hookbill fit there! Ya, comets are tough nuts, you can try to pull range but you really want to go as far as possible. The comet with null loaded has 3.1 + 4.4 range, so you are at the edge of falloff there, you want to pull to 9.5 if possible to exploit that overheated t2 scram and get deeper into the 2nd falloff. Even then he will still do some dps and 60 dps w/ the t2 hobs, so its rough.
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OK, 2nd AAR will be a 2-part event, first some action in a solo instalock thrasher, then a battle exeq in Jita:

----------------INSTA-LOCK THRASHER------------
First, I played solo insta-lock thrasher. Everyone knows this is my favorite ship and strategy in EvE... I love the ninja aspect, the element of surprise, putting my opponent in a bad spot (while at the same time locking myself into a stressful spot).

It doesn't always work out. This time, I got 2 ventures that were auto-piloting back to highsec? They both warped to the gate at 20 and started to slowboat. BLAP:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/62000356/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/62000824/

Not to long after, the one and only Megoste jumped into system. I decided I would shoot no matter what decloaked. Unfortunately it was a Hecate. After I realized that I tried to warp, but the thrasher is slow. Megoste burned in and scrammed me before I could get out:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/62001250/

So now all who read this see the fit. When I first came to EvE and saw this fit, I trained into mastery as quickly as possible. ALPHA!

----------------------BATTLE EXEQUOR-ARRRRR--------------------
There's alot that goes into successfully baiting a fight in highsec. First of all, you have to get suspect, which is achieved by shooting a mobile depot. ALWAYS HAVE SAFETY ON YELLOW IN HI-SEC! Then, be aware. Many people will ignore you. Many will want to kill you, but will be skeptical / cautious. What you want to do is separate your enemies.

In this instance, I had been playing with this guy, and he reshipped into a cloaky manticore, so that he could get close to me without realizing. I let them chase me and almost catch me around the 4-4 station in Jita, then warped to New Caldari gate at zero. The Manticore landed (along with a nemesis and punisher). They all engaged. I really needed them at zero for a scram, and I got it. The nemesis maintained range, but nothing else engaged me at the gate:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/62006439/ - Manticore was only 3k off me when he engaged. Ooops!

https://zkillboard.com/kill/62006447/ - The punisher was next, but as soon as I started shooting him, I burned at the Nemesis; I wanted another bomber. The punisher had some chance to warp off, but I think he was panicking :)

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While I was in Jita, I wanted to try a battle venture. At first I went with a MSE + Adaptive Invuln. Nice little tank there! But I had to forego a scram. So I warped in on a green site where a corax and algos were working. I started to damage the corax, but he warped off. So I went for the Algos:

http://i.imgur.com/KaBOgIV.png - Algos kill (somehow it's not showing on zkill)

I kept at it, using green sites to separate players from the nasty blob around 4-4. There was a corax that engaged me there, but I failed to look at his weapon systems, I should not have assumed rails. He was blaster fit, and just out-blased me:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/62014711/

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Nice!

Never heard about doing PvP in high sec... this is already kill of the month if my opinion counts! So you shoot neutral Mobile Depot, become flashy and make sure you split attackers so you can manage them?
And I assume you can only attack those who attacks you, been flashy still needs you to be aggressed by another player before shooting back, am I right?
And you intentionally choose a logy ship so people assume you can't shoot back?
Did you gather any intel on what is at the gate before warping to it? If it had few sitting Tornados they would just smash you...?

So Glen, if you don't want me to wish you be killed in Battle Exequror - please post its fit too :)

Thanks!
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Deliberately getting flashy it's a common tactic hisec PvPers use to bait noobs into aggressing them and then kill them. I'm not sure how it stands with the Uni ethos and/or RoE though, so you might want to check on that.
When the Angel Gala event was still a thing I would go contest site runners in hisec and steal their loot to make them aggress me. Got some shiny carebear kills that way. Ofc, that was after I left the Uni as can flipping is against the Uni rules.
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I think I'm "technically" OK with my approach, they do aggress me first, so they are legal targets. Although I'm sure I would get a visit from senior management if I made it my habit to troll newbros in Jita all day. As it stands, I use it as something different to do when I happen to be in a trade-hub, and it's certainly educational to share with unistas. High sec is NOT a scary place! You just have to be prepared and have your wits gathered!

Budda: Just as in lowsec, gates are safe places in hi-sec! If there were a pile of tornados there, I would just jump through. Now if there were a pile of tornados on the OTHER side, I would probably make it back to the gate?

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Dont you get locked by 20people at once if you show up flashy at jita 4-4?
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Of course if you sit on the station you're gonna get blobbed. So you have to make the fight come to you. Warp to mobile depots (but not too close), and then align out. Someone warps to you, let them approach a bit, then warp off to a gate. If they engage at the gate, then you have a choice.

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I'm still shaking from this one :) I'm not sure that I'll ever be completely calm during a 1v1 where I feel the other pilot has the upper hand.

In UPH I discovered a WH to Aridia lowsec. It's a pocket of ~10 0.1 systems. CLONE SOLDIER TAGS, HO!

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So I get into my favorite ship for such an errand, the passive svipul. Sacrifice DPS for tank.
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Republic Fleet Medium Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Medium Shield Extender
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This has no problem taking out CS, and can also be used to solo larger ships. So as went from belt-to-belt, I checked the local pirates. Russians. And lo-and-behold, an Ishtar, 5 months old character. A few losses on his KB. He was in and out of the systems I was ratting, but as I entered a system, he landed on my in-gate. I burned back to gate, jumped, broke cloak, and motored back to the gate. When he appeared, I locked him and set a 500m orbit. I wanted HIM to engage first, so that I could have the gate gun advantage.

And, he obliged by scramming and neuting me. Yay! I hit my scram and put DPS on him. His shields went down fast, and then he was in armor. I switched to Fusion. He had Fed Navy Ogres out, and I switched to Defensive mode for the tank. The Ogres were hitting hard, so I targeted them and switched DPS to take out his drones. I also set a 2.5km orbit and overheated my AB a bit so that I could speed tank his Ogres, and that helped. Then, he pulled his drones and I knew his intention was to neut me out and warp off. I put my DPS back on his hull and overheated, but my cap was getting dry. Fortunately, my guns did not need any cap (which is why I chose Minmitar in the first place, like 12 years ago, thanks Glen-from-the-past)...

But after about 20 seconds I was cap-dry and he warped off in 80% structure. Damn! BUT WAIT! He warped to a fortizar! He has a weapons timer! I STILL HAVE A CHANCE! There were 2 fortizars in line, one of which had a Russian-sounding name, so I chose that one. Landing at the Fort, yes, chose the right one, landing 2km off him, targeted, SCRAM! YEAH! DPS, OVERHEAT! Please please please please don't neut me out this time! But his structure started to drop and then, wait WHAT?! A Cyno was lit! Finish him! YES! He popped just as he got me locked and started to neut me. I wanted to get his pod and loot, but the cyno brought in a Sin (covops battleship) and it was time for me to go...

https://zkillboard.com/kill/62218089/ +408M

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Very nicely done! Though it was a risk following his ass to station, as he could have had enough tank to tank you once the gate gun pressure was off. He shouldn't have used navy ogres either, their tracking, while improved over their t2 version, isn't enough for me to want to risk on a svipul (though you did have rather large sig after dual mse and triple shield rigs).
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I was encouraged to add some more solo kills:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/62451693/ - A thrasher at the belt in OST. This guy had alot of time to warp off, because I was just going there to see if there were any rats, so I landed at my tactical. He continued to shoot rats and I was able to warp to a wreck right next to him. When I did land, he quickly engaged me, so I was able to relieve him of his pod without taking a sec status hit:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/62451693/ Thrasher 3.6m
https://zkillboard.com/kill/62451715/ Pod 10k

That's a 110M Svipul fit I used, so if there's a prize for overkill this might take it... Or, actually, this next one. I fitted up a Gnosis with 5 sebos and arty. The alpha is 3200+. I sat on the Stacmon gate in OST:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/62453604/ - Imicus, 0.7M
https://zkillboard.com/kill/62453823/ - Catalyst 12M
https://zkillboard.com/kill/62454541/ - Nereus 5M

The Nereus is notable personally, there's no way I could kill that with a solo thrasher, which is how I usually gatecamp.
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