[Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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[Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022
L4 - Stop the Thief

It's a small competition, to have a bit of fun and compare how different ships run missions - join us, take your favourite ship and see who's faster.


Rules:
=> We all run the same mission: L4 - Stop the Thief.
=> Solo runs, no outside help with combat boosts etc.
=> Anything goes except Abyssal/Storyline/Officer mods, at maximum a T2 Battleship. (Pirates are okay too).
=> Full clear ! No blitzing, everything that is red needs to die. Yes even the sentry towers if there are any.
=> Post your runs as reply to this post, needed is run time and your fit (include an evepraisal to estimate cost).


Timing:
=> Timed from Landing (on the gate if gated Mission, or inside if ungated) to last Ship dies or until you have the missionobjective in cargo if the mission requires one (and everything is dead).
=> Make two screenshots, one with start time and the other with when you complete the timing requirements mentioned above. Make sure to display a clock that shows seconds. Or you can make a video of your run ! In that case ignore the pictures :) Pls do Video !
=> Deadline to report your time: 29.01.2022


Video:
=> Please remember about Uni recording policy, aka no Corp chats visible.
=> For recording OBS is very handy, easy to set up, and for purposes of Cannonball race quality doesn't really matter aslong as we get the timings & how you did it.
=> You can upload that to youtube as an unlisted video, but dont forget to add the link to your post :)


TQ/Sisi Server:
=> Runs on TQ are preferred but not mandatory.
=> If doing a Sisi run, do a /copyskills followed by /booststandings so you can fish for the correct mission.
=> Try to fly a Ship/Fit that you (would) actually own on TQ (as in keep it reasonable, dont go full overkill with Officer Abyssal god rolls on an AT ship ;))


Prizes: (being sponsored by Uni.)
=> Fastest overall completion time gets a prize.
=> Cheapest to run that is fastest gets a prize.
=> edit: if I win either one of those two, the other person will get both.

Good luck, and let's race !
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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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How many times can we enter? Rather, can we redo our entry at a later time? I pulled this mission my first try after reading the post, so I just went for it in my Paladin. Not the cheapest fit by a long shot, but hey. :wink:
Fit and appraisal:
[Paladin, Monster]
Corpus A-Type Large Armor Repairer
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Multispectrum Energized Membrane II
Core A-Type Kinetic Armor Hardener
Core A-Type Thermal Armor Hardener

Large Micro Jump Drive
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner

Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Small Tractor Beam I
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
Bastion Module I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I



Hobgoblin II x5

Imperial Navy Multifrequency L x4
Standard L x4
Scorch L x4
Gamma L x4


Total Sell Value: 2,487,348,700.00
Total Buy Value: 2,249,768,996.00
Screenshots with time imposed
landing on grid coming out of warp. 4:25:59
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Last one bites the dust. 4:31:30
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Sanctia Vitae wrote: 2022.01.01 00:33 How many times can we enter?
As many times as you want but i'll only count your fastest run.
Sanctia Vitae wrote: 2022.01.01 00:33 Rather, can we redo our entry at a later time?
Yup.
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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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Just so I understand the problem, if I were to complete the mission in... say a venture with light drones... And I had the fastest time (in the cheapest fit), I would win a prize?
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Gortack wrote: 2022.01.10 21:27 Just so I understand the problem, if I were to complete the mission in... say a venture with light drones... And I had the fastest time (in the cheapest fit), I would win a prize?
To some extend, yes. However there is (for this one) quite some math involved to make it fair. Rewording will be for the februrary challenge to make it more obvious (as i'm going to run with what i've wrote for now).

For everyone else: the idea with the "cheapest but fastest" boils down to be able to provide prizes torwards ppl that arent going to be hightrainingskill/OPship. It's a work in progress but be assured prize distribution will be fair ! To quote someone i had a good conversation about just this issue: "keep it practical/reasonable" is the theme.
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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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Race entry.

Ship: Golem
Time: 3m31s landing -> mission -> complete
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6k24qg1EZw
Fit:
Spoiler
[Golem, Golem]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Sensor Booster II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Target Painter II
Pithum C-Type EM Shield Amplifier
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Large Micro Jump Drive

Bastion Module I
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II

Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II



Warrior II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Acolyte II x5

Scan Resolution Script x1
Inferno Fury Cruise Missile x1000
Inferno Precision Cruise Missile x1000
Evepraisal: 1.61B ( https://evepraisal.com/a/12ssb8 )
Pilot: no ship enhancing implants/hardwirings or drugs. Sisi run.

Throwing down the gauntlet for anyone to challenge. Bring it !
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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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JohnPlayerNotSpecial wrote: 2022.01.10 22:42
Gortack wrote: 2022.01.10 21:27 Just so I understand the problem, if I were to complete the mission in... say a venture with light drones... And I had the fastest time (in the cheapest fit), I would win a prize?
To some extend, yes. However there is (for this one) quite some math involved to make it fair. Rewording will be for the februrary challenge to make it more obvious (as i'm going to run with what i've wrote for now).
You're right, it is strictly speaking not possible to select a single winner in this category - it would be different if it was simply "cheapest ship that has, at least on this one run-through, been successful in completing the mission". I therefore take it that you would apply your "fair/practical/reasonable" clause if somebody came in with a race entry that was 0.1% cheaper than the next higher one, but took 10 times as long to complete the mission.
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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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Mission: Stop the Thief - L4
Server: Tranquility
Mission System: Jufvitte

Ship: Myrmidon

Fit
Spoiler
[Myrmidon, Myrmidonas]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
F-89 Compact Signal Amplifier
Medium ACM Compact Armor Repairer

Medium Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Sensor Booster II
100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Cap Recharger II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Auto Targeting System I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I

Hornet I x5
Vespa I x5
Warden I x4

Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x1
Tracking Speed Script x1
Optimal Range Script x1
Cost: 70.5M
https://evepraisal.com/a/12tvp3

Pilot: No Handwritting implants

Warp to mission -> Mission -> Gate: Total Time: 12min 05sec

Clear mission time -> Warp in -> Last ship dies: 10min 40sec

Video: https://youtu.be/7wIX3gTT3lg
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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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Also you can create an index, as an example devide the apraisal cost of the ship by the time it takes to finish the mission in seconds. So you will have to compare this index (isk/s) for the cheapest that is fastest.
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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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Absolutely - I suspect JPNS does exactly something like this, except he's mum on the details in case he makes a calculation mistake. :lol:
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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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Arkady, any calculation known in advance can be (and will be) exploited :)

I have two entries at once - on is my old Gila run (which I should probably re-time to get few seconds but I'm lazy)


Race entry no 1 - Lazy Gila. Standard passive Gila which I use for all L4s. It shouldn't be so good at L4s :)

Ship: Gila
Time: 8m21s
Video: https://youtu.be/1qcPABphcMU
Fit:
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[Gila, Lazy Gila]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Large Shield Extender II
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II


Valkyrie II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Vespa II x4
Infiltrator II x2


Scourge Auto-Targeting Light Missile I x300
Scourge Light Missile x2000
Scourge Fury Light Missile x2000
Evepraisal: 507M ( http://evepraisal.com/a/12uhyk )
Pilot: several 3% Hardwirings (108M, http://evepraisal.com/a/12uhzu ):
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Implants:
Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-603
Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Management SM-703
Zainou 'Deadeye' Guided Missile Precision GP-803
Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-903
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003





Race entry no 2 - that's a cheeky one. It all started by pondering "What's the cheapest ship that can run that mission?", a bit of fit crafting, and then long run itself :)

To be clear - that's unreasonable ship, I do not want to participate in "Cheapest - Fastest" competition. You should not run L4s like that.

Having said that:

Ship: Kestrel
Time: 50m43s
Video: https://youtu.be/ZrBn45_oWCM
Fit:
Spoiler
[Kestrel, Stop The Thief?]
Ballistic Control System I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Small Shield Extender I
Small Shield Extender I
Missile Guidance Computer I

TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher
TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher
TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher
TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I




Missile Range Script x1
Inferno Light Missile x9738
Evepraisal: 2,398,595 ISK ( http://evepraisal.com/a/12uior )
Pilot: Clean clone, good missile skills. Book to read.


I think that given enough time, every ship can run this mission ;)




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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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Oh, I absolutely love the Kestrel run - I was going to try something similar, hadn't settled on a hull yet, but given that I would have to reserve a full hour for this while probably not getting anything more cheaper than your Kestrel, I won't bother! :D
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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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Couldn't resist...

Reusing the Corax from the L2 mission, but cheapening it up.

Race Entry

Ship: Corax
Time: 31:04

Fit:
L2 Crossover
[Corax, L2 Crossover]
Ballistic Control System I
Ballistic Control System I

Missile Guidance Computer I
Missile Guidance Computer I
1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Alumel-Wired Enduring Sensor Booster

TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher
TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher
TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher
TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher
TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher
TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher
TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I

Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x1
Inferno Light Missile x1500
Missile Range Script x2
Missile Precision Script x2
Cost: 2.29m isk (Evepraisal) - YES, IT"S CHEAPER THAN CHRIS' KESTREL! (even with less amount of ammo in the Kestrel)
Server: Singularity
Pilot: 30m SP, good missile skills, no implants or boosters
Video: https://youtu.be/VYDJ1XbCi3o

I only realised after I had run the mission that my fit was even cheaper than Chris' Kestrel. I think this is borderline for running an L4 when, with a proper ship, you can run 5 of these in the same time. But again I was surprised at how well this little destroyer did at this mission. I even had some bad positioning at the start of the second wave, which necessitated two bounces. Without those, the time to completion could conceivably be shrunk by a few minutes still.
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Re: [Event] Mission Cannonball Race, January 2022

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Arkady, you beast :) Great stats, I'll look at the run when I am on PC - but I'm impressed :)


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