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Valdayn Nightwind

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Post 2012.03.17 03:00

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Turhan Bey wrote:I had a friend who played PvP a lot in Diablo 2. He once chided me about not doing so myself, calling me a "wuss", etc. The conversation went something like:

    "You're not a real gamer unless you play PvP! Computer is too easy, man!"
    "So you're really into PvP in games?"
    "Hell yeah!"
    "Then why are you playing Diablo 2?"
He just gave me a blank look and then never really said anything more since.


Hahah - love it! I played a ton of D2, but never cared for the PVP aspects of it. For the most part, it seemed like it mostly consisted of people ganking others by using various hacks and exploits, or otherwise going after people that were just questing and had no interest in PvP. Though there was certainly a subset of players that were big into duelling outside of the Rogue camp, I suspect that this was a very very small minority of the total playerbase.
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Post 2012.04.20 08:59

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Open beta weekend on short notice (trying to mess with Tera? :pinkiegasp: )

EU blog: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/blog/4105609 ... _2012#blog
US blog: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/4963739 ... _2012#blog

Edit: Because it's not exactly clear when/where you can download the beta client, it appears to be downloadable from here: https://us.battle.net/account/download/index.xml
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Post 2012.04.20 09:46

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Panthera Lynx wrote:Open beta weekend on short notice (trying to mess with Tera? :pinkiegasp: )

lol, good point.

I'm sorry Blizzard. Too late, I already downloaded Tera :P
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Post 2012.04.23 15:41

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Got to play this a little bit over the weekend on the open beta, and it's a lot of fun. Got to play all the classes except Witch Doctor. Multiplayer worked well. The melee classes are FUN, especially barbarian. Monk is pretty awesome too. Weirdly enough, the wizard was pretty ho hum for me (I usually play wizard types). I'm hoping as the wizard gets higher in level the gameplay changes up a bit more.

Overall, I'm very psyched for the release in May.

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Irdalth Delrar

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Post 2012.04.23 18:36

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The game is better then I thought it'd be, but still worse then I hoped.

All in all, I found that the melee classes were not only more fun, they were generally much stronger then the ranged classes. I never felt the raw power with the hunter or witch doctor that the monk provided (let alone the survivability). All in all, they'd better work on balancing, because I don't think its balanced at all...
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Turhan Bey

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Post 2012.04.23 18:45

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I thought the same thing about the Amazon in Diablo 2, until I reached the endgame and discovered the joys of Strafe + Pierce + Crushing Blow. But yeah, I'm also a bit concerned though hopeful about the scaled balance, which is unfortunately impossible to gauge with the Beta limitations. I really, really don't want to play all the way through only to find out that my chosen class kinda sucks in the end compared with the others. Luckily, Blizzard has a pretty good track record with that.

With a few exceptions. *cough*assassin*cough*
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Post 2012.04.24 06:03

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Irdalth Delrar wrote:All in all, I found that the melee classes were not only more fun, they were generally much stronger then the ranged classes. I never felt the raw power with the hunter or witch doctor that the monk provided (let alone the survivability). All in all, they'd better work on balancing, because I don't think its balanced at all...


I kind of disagree about the witch doctor. It felt the most powerful, mostly because of soul harvest. The bonus to intelligence is huge because the other classes can't compensate bad gear even nearly as good as that - and I didn't really want to spend the time to grind up good gear this weekend. But I still didn't feel the strength, because the most powerful skills are those that are visually complex and/or do damage over time. You don't clearly see yourself doing damage, but if you pay attention, damage gets done real fast. In groups I was usually the one the others couldn't keep up with if I was the only witch doctor, that gtaoe grabby hands thing is deadly with 5 stacks of soul harvest up, stuff died faster than the melee classes could get in range. Even teleporting monks had trouble applying their damage fast enough. And when I ended up in a group with three witch doctors, the skeleton king pretty much just fell over in a matter of seconds.

The wizard on the other hand really didn't feel very powerful, but being near invulnerable half the time is a huge deal. The most fun I had with the wizard was when I played mine as a melee sorceror, using diamond skin and making mobs in front of me explode. Kind of the same playing style I used with the barbarian (with cleave) but taking much less damage due to diamond skin. That ice death ray feels really weak in comparison. I wonder how that'll change later on, hoping that the Archon form will be useful since I kinda like the idea behind it.

The demon hunter was kind of odd. It seems that with good gear you can do very solid damage against single enemies, but how often does that happen? Sure, being able to kill bosses and elites fast is nice, but if getting there takes ages... well. And unfortunately, dual crossbows didn't really seem to pay off, the higher attack speed was partially negated by skill cooldowns.

I did like the monk best too, I agree about it feeling the strongest. No huge damage on demand on long cooldowns but pretty solid consistent damage output. Survivability is great as well - solid damage, skills that heal you, teleporting, and ignoring collisions with mobs? Sold. I'm planning to play hardcore only once I unlock it, and the monk seems like a great choice for that. The barbarian felt really week in comparison, damage output was okay, but it could do little else other than damage.
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Post 2012.04.24 17:19

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It's a bit difficult to judge this early. WD don't really shine until they get Soul Harvest in beta. DH is much more fleshed out after you get Bola shot.
I think different class might feel stronger at different level range depending on the skill and rune you unlocked.
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Post 2012.04.25 07:33

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Ah I missed the open beta weekend. Luckily I already got to play on the beta before.

Did it allow access to any more content, all I could do previously was act 1.

I will defiantly be buying this and it will probably take up most of my game time for quite a while.

Don't look as fun as D2 (I loved my zeal sorc)
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Panthera Lynx

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Post 2012.04.25 11:52

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No, only act 1 and max level of 13.
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Irdalth Delrar

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Post 2012.04.25 12:04

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I do see your point about the WD... I only played him till lvl 10. And the Hunter kept dying... I could kill off single things relatively ok (I disagree that bolas changed all that much), but all in all, it didn't feel like a demon hunter, more like a demon poker-with-sticks.

In my opinion, given the game, I feel like every character should feel somewhat powerful in different ways... I disagree the D2 amazon was weak... she was easily one of my favorites, just maybe less interesting at low levels.

I donno... the game was better then I thought it'd be, but I'm still disappointed.
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Post 2012.05.07 20:46

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It was actually in the mid- to late-game that I had the most trouble with the Amazon, in large part because of (a) physical immunes and (b) damage reflection, than anything else. But the biggest issue was of balancing survivability with damage output for any except specific builds unless you were twinked. And even after that, just try getting past Hell Duriel or worse Hell Ancients, as a solo Amazon. You absolutely need twink armor and/or lots of HP, and either a severely twinked tank henchman or a ton of points into your Valkyrie (or better, both). Few if any players had all of these for their first few playthroughs, and even after achieving this, it was a major chore with lots of deaths.

This was (somewhat) helped by the introduction of respecialization but that didn't happen until, what, 5 years after initial release? So I hold high hopes that we won't have the same issues in D3.

BTW, Third TV Spot video:
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Turhan Bey

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Post 2012.05.08 04:48

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Blizzard wrote:You should be especially cautious on May 14, as with the installer unlocking and worldwide releases taking place, the entire game will be available to be discovered and datamined. We also plan to populate the Diablo3.com game guide with item data that Monday, which may themselves be spoilers. If you care about spoilers, it may just be best to not go on the internet on May 14.

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Post 2012.05.08 07:04

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"Luckily" I'll be attending a conference during that week, and conference hotels usually have crappy internet anyway. ;-)
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Itna Sleyn

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Post 2012.05.09 15:24

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I m in the middle east so it's going to be interesting trying to logon to the US server during the release day. Granted it's probably morning by the time it opens up and I wont be able to play till i get home from work.
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